gbandit Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Should have gotten into cheerleading or synchronised swimming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Am I making it up or did someone call Andy Cole âBlackie Milburnâ. I really hope Iâm not making it up because that means Iâve imagined it and thatâd be horrible. Edited May 16, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Am I making it up or did Sir John Hall call Andy Cole âBlackie Milburnâ. I really hope Iâm not making it up because that means Iâve imagined it and thatâd be horrible.  https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/greatest-individual-seasons-andy-cole-brings-goals-newcastle-199394  "But aside from the fact that he wasnât a centre-forward in the traditional St Jamesâ Park mould â although he did have a sinewy strength that belied his slight frame â there was another notable difference between Cole and previous Gallowgate End legends. âIf you'd said 10 years ago that the hero of the Toon Army would be a black lad, you would probably have got some pretty strange looks,â explained Newcastle fanzine The Mag, perhaps recalling another striker, Tony Cunningham, who was cruelly nicknamed âBlackie Milburnâ less than a decade earlier." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 âMUCH-TRAVELLED striker Tony Cunningham had a âWhere are they nowâ piece â heâs now a solicitor in Lincoln â in last weekendâs Sunday Times. Particularly he recalled his time with Newcastle United under Jack Charlton, a manager infamous for never remembering playersâ name. Usually they were either Big Lad or Little Lad. Cunningham was different. âHe called me Blackie Milburn, but meant no offence by it,â he says.â Â https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/backtrack/backtrack/8824567.tributes-bill-shankly-annfield/?action=complain&cid=9116231 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I remember SJH saying something along the lines of how when Ferdinand came to his house he was standing in front of something black and he couldn't see him. Proper standard stereotypical casual racism from that generation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Darkie originated from workers going down the mines and coming out, well, dark. Edited May 16, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Always liked Tony Cunningham. Can't remember why but I took an instant shine to him. Don't remember him pulling up any trees. I think I just liked the fact that it was a big fuck off to the NF lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 John Barnes is on record saying racism towards him wasnât half as bad as it was towards any foreign player black or white and homophobia was even worse. Iâm an 80s child and love the music from that era and had a good time growing up in general, but it was a grim time even for the whiteies, the working class that is. I imagine it was fucking awful for those non white, in football or general society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Yous all need to read up on Walter Tull, Iâm sure the BBC did a canny documentary and a kind of series on his life and times. Great story and what a legend and hero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Always liked Tony Cunningham. Can't remember why but I took an instant shine to him. Don't remember him pulling up any trees. I think I just liked the fact that it was a big fuck off to the NF lot. And he put a shift in. When your team isn't good you can at least appreciate effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Geordie Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Happinesstan said: Always liked Tony Cunningham. Can't remember why but I took an instant shine to him. Don't remember him pulling up any trees. I think I just liked the fact that it was a big fuck off to the NF lot. Â TC was a grafter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Â It shouldnât even be an issue, but hopefully it normalises players being gay which is normal in itself. Good on him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I remember SJH saying something along the lines of how when Ferdinand came to his house he was standing in front of something black and he couldn't see him. Proper standard stereotypical casual racism from that generation.  Was his AGA oven wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Â Was his AGA oven wasn't it? Â He made that joke on talksport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 SJH wasnât/isnât a racist btw, but that was crass of him! Wor Blackie seemed so Geordie at the time and Iâm in no doubt back then it was done in jest, but today it doesnât sit right and never will or should. I go back to John Barnes, he has some great takes on the whole subject. I know I have said probably a million times on here my boy plays football, but if I could compare him to anyone it would be him and I loved the fact he played for us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, joeyt said: Â Â Didnât realise he was only 17 when I was reading that article - was expecting him to be in his mid twenties for some reason. Â Good on him. Hope others feel that theyâre able to come out too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Am I making it up or did someone call Andy Cole âBlackie Milburnâ. I really hope Iâm not making it up because that means Iâve imagined it and thatâd be horrible.     The Sun or possibly the News of the World came out with "They call him Wor Blackie" and just like when they said of Ginola "The man the Geordies call Frog on the Tyne" it wasn't anything I'd heard any Newcastle fan say and seemed to be just some "clever" thing london journalists had made up and put in our mouths.  Reminds me of another jounro "Wouldn't it be so funny if" presented as reality, with stories claiming whever Emma Watson answered a question in class other students wou;d shout out "Ten points to Gryffindor" to hysterical laughter, which unsurprisingly turned out to be entirely invented. Or the wresting where Michael Cole does this painfully contrived "The WWE Universe is calling him..." (insert nickname Vince McMahon came up with, copyrighted last week and wants the fans to call this guy.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Â Didnât realise he was only 17 when I was reading that article - was expecting him to be in his mid twenties for some reason. Â Good on him. Hope others feel that theyâre able to come out too. Itâs sad as fuck people have to come out as gay or whatever, who cares, I do get it though and if it helps turn a negative into a positive itâs all good. What a brave lad it has to be said. More power to him and gay rights/causes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Shouldnât have to take serious balls to come out publicly as a footballer but massive credit to the lad. Getting it out there early means he doesnât have to have it niggling away in the back of his mind and he can live his life and enjoy his football more. Hope it paves the way for more players to be able to be open even though they shouldnât have to declare it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, gbandit said: Shouldnât have to take serious balls to come out publicly as a footballer but massive credit to the lad. Getting it out there early means he doesnât have to have it niggling away in the back of his mind and he can live his life and enjoy his football more. Hope it paves the way for more players to be able to be open even though they shouldnât have to declare it  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Was wearing my (snide DHGate) Toon top yesterday while out in Portugal on holiday and some lass pulled me, it was only the daughter of Ivor Broadis, who she told me missed out on an FA Cup Final and win due to a fallout with Seymour (basically our board) I think she said, he got a medal for scoring a double for England, the first ever in a full international at a World Cup. She wore it around her neck. I spent all day around them and she regaled me with all kind of tales about her old man who only passed away recently well into his nineties. He is from London, but she was born in Newcastle, he played for the mackems and Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 As much as Iâm glad the rainbow laces campaign exists and support it I donât think Gueye should be put in a position where he has to chose between wearing the shirt and playing. If he chooses not to show support for the campaign thatâs up to him. He may have religious beliefs against it. Ofcourse his religion doesnât  Mean his beliefs on gay people are correct but he should have the choice to make that decision.   Also good  on the young lad for having the balls to be one of the first to come out as gay. Hopefully i the next few this will all be a bit meh, and not a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said:  Didnât realise he was only 17 when I was reading that article - was expecting him to be in his mid twenties for some reason.  Good on him. Hope others feel that theyâre able to come out too. absolute legend. He goes down in history by default, but at 17, with his entire career ahead of him. Incredible, not that it should be, still incredible though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Amazing what the Internet coughs up when you hear a player's dad played & have a quick Google... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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