Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)

[Mattoon]

15 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

It’s also not true, is it? Is it not more like 40% in the league? Less across all comps, at a guess. 
 

I did look the other day. But I can’t remember. Guessing on that league figure. But we scored 68 goals I think. Isak did not score 40 league goals  

 

27 goals out of 88 so roughly 30% in all comps and 23 of 68 in the PL so roughly 34%

[gdm]

Just now, mighty__mag said:

Just don't think we're in a strong position anymore, it's getting too late in this current window and he'll definitely want to leave in this window. 

 

We're not really in a position to drive the price up at this stage. 

 

I think even if it was 120m it wouldn't go much past that.

 

Thinking we can demand 150m at this stage is daft.

All due respect to him. Who cares what he wants. He’s got a 3 year contract and we need to do what’s best for us not him. We need to start acting like a big club  

[Kid Icarus]

58 minutes ago, Displayname said:

What will happen? Doubt anyone outside of Newcastle would even bat an eye. Just business as normal.

 

Have you not thought about what would happen?

 

Every player, agent and competing club in the world will know that not only will we let our top players leave if they're unsettled/kick up a fuss - regardless of how long is left on their contract - but that the club who want our player can also go as far as signing our #1 replacement for that player and then still sign our player. Proper Reek from Game of Thrones behaviour.

 

Everyone will know we're happy to sell to a rival within the same league and that even when we hold all the cards we're a soft touch. The optics would be bad enough, but the actual precedent it would set would be terrible.

 

Everyone, from existing players and agents, to potential ones, to other clubs, to our own fans will know we're a soft touch and can be treated as such.

 

The supporter's faith in the 'project' would take a massive hit, their faith in PIF at all would take a massive hit, and all of that translates on to the terraces and then onto the field. Christ, it would translate to marketing and our revenue, trying to gain our global appeal as a 'banter club' with no history of success to fall back on.

 

And what about Howe and his future? His opinion is that he should stay. Selling him and moving on is against our manager's wishes. 

 

It's absolutely ridiculous to say we should just let him go and move on tbh, the club moving on wouldn't resemble the same one that let him go.

 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, mighty__mag said:

Just don't think we're in a strong position anymore, it's getting too late in this current window and he'll definitely want to leave in this window. 

 

We're not really in a position to drive the price up at this stage. 

 

I think even if it was 120m it wouldn't go much past that.

 

Thinking we can demand 150m at this stage is daft.

If that’s where we’re at then there’s no scenario where he can go this summer. He’ll go for at least that next summer with more bidders. Would prefer that he rots than go for way under his value. We all know he wouldn’t rot anyway, he’d play a full season for us 

[tarie4]

4 minutes ago, Displayname said:

I don't think a lot of people are willing to capitulate to Liverpool.

They should only get him if they pay fair value. 

Has to be above fair value mate. If Isak was at Brighton, they wouldn't accept 120 or 130. They got Liverpool to bid 111 for Caicedo guys. They would want 150 plus for him.

We are in a strong position, Liverpool want Isak, fine pay up. 150 please, if not fuck off then. 

We should be a club thats tough to get players from, again look at Brighton,  you go there to pay through the nose for their players, no cheap deals there.

Look at Forrest now, noone is gonna mess with them after seeing the MGW saga. 

 

This is our moment to earn a reputation  of being  difficult negotiators.

[Mattoon]

3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

Just don't think we're in a strong position anymore, it's getting too late in this current window and he'll definitely want to leave in this window. 

 

We're not really in a position to drive the price up at this stage. 

 

I think even if it was 120m it wouldn't go much past that.

 

Thinking we can demand 150m at this stage is daft.

 

Insanity, Isak is bound to a 3 year contract, of course we're in a strong position, we don't have to do anything, he is our player and his contractually bound to be our player for the next 3 years, only way that changes is if we allow it. We are in a very strong position, I've said it several times we value Isak at £150m but we have categorically stated and have been unmoved from "NOT FOR SALE" ergo it will take North of that to make us turn our heads and probably closer to £200m this summer. This deal doesn't get done, no way Liverpool will be able to pay what we want from them, he'll go next summer.

[mighty__mag]

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

All due respect to him. Who cares what he wants. He’s got a 3 year contract and we need to do what’s best for us not him. We need to start acting like a big club  

 

You know it doesn't work like that, player power wins, if the agent, player want it, it'll very likely happen, we're never keeping an unhappy player here, especially one of his calibre, there will be constant media coverage of a situation like that, making us a total circus, Howe would never want a sideshow like that during our campaign.

 

We all don't like it, I get that, but if he wants out, it's the only way, just daft we ended up winding down toward the end of the window, where our position on price weakens and Liverpools strengthens. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'm not sure I really buy our position weakening as time goes on, it's not like we're desperate to sell him. I get the player power argument but it's not often a single player is such a valuable asset to an organisation like Isak is for us. 

 

Also, unless we have a replacement lined up then we'll have a disastrous season and miss out on millions in prize money etc, so that has to be factored in. 

 

FWIW I would believe that we could reintegrate him if he stays, although it would take time. 

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

 

You know it doesn't work like that, player power wins, if the agent, player want it, it'll very likely happen, we're never keeping an unhappy player here, especially one of his calibre, there will be constant media coverage of a situation like that, making us a total circus, Howe would never want a sideshow like that during our campaign.

 

We all don't like it, I get that, but if he wants out, it's the only way, just daft we ended up winding down toward the end of the window, where our position on price weakens and Liverpools strengthens. 

The player power wins thing is a complete myth. There are countless examples of players who want a move, throw their toys out of the pram and the club still says no.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Sibierski]

Liverpool need to bid because it will quickly shape which way this goes. If it’s a bid that’s then worded by Hughes to his mouth pieces, that if it’s rejected they will go elsewhere, it will say it all. We reject it quickly, we can nip this in the bud.

 

Longer Liverpool just sit trying to undermine us, more it must piss us all off in the club and just makes our stance more entrenched. 

[Chicken Dancer]

I’d honestly be more shocked if he leaves this summer vs him staying. 
 

He’s shot his load too late - there’s one team market for him and I can’t see us selling there unless they pay stupid money. I’m definitely in the minority of my circle but honestly quite confident he stays for this season. 

[Guest]

If he’s sold it won’t be on the cheap, 165m with some achievable add ons.

 

I could live with that, but not to Liverpool.. I don’t think the interest is as strong now since they bought Ekitike. But generally, fuck them.

 

My own take on this is that he’s angling at a new contract. And trying to force talks in that sense. He should be paid more than what he’s currently on. If we offer him something decent, he’ll stay. He’s intelligent enough to know he’s onto a good thing here.

[Sibierski]

4 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

 

Insanity, Isak is bound to a 3 year contract, of course we're in a strong position, we don't have to do anything, he is our player and his contractually bound to be our player for the next 3 years, only way that changes is if we allow it. We are in a very strong position, I've said it several times we value Isak at £150m but we have categorically stated and have been unmoved from "NOT FOR SALE" ergo it will take North of that to make us turn our heads and probably closer to £200m this summer. This deal doesn't get done, no way Liverpool will be able to pay what we want from them, he'll go next summer.

It’s literally same as Kane scenario. He had 4 years left when it was apparently worded with Levy he could leave the following summer if club got a good offer. Man City made an offer around £100m mark, Levy rejected, Kane apparently downed tools and wanted out, didn’t play first league game, but then came back into fold and smashed in the goals as usual and moved 2 years later, for £100m.

 

Literally no reason for us to not follow same route. Worse case, Isak has two average seasons, the move he wanted is not there and he chooses the big contract at us.

[Whitley mag]

4 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

I’d honestly be more shocked if he leaves this summer vs him staying. 
 

He’s shot his load too late - there’s one team market for him and I can’t see us selling there unless they pay stupid money. I’m definitely in the minority of my circle but honestly quite confident he stays for this season. 

Starting to think this way to and he’s Yasir’s favourite player to boot.

 

Liverpool may dwarf us as a club currently, but let’s be clear PIF could crush Fenway if they chose.

 

Selling to Liverpool is unpalatable unless it’s for 200 million and we can’t refuse. 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Whitley mag

[BennyBlanco]

Liverpool definitely need to show their hand at some point. The more it drags out, as others have said, the more the club will think they are just kicking tyres in the noisiest way possible. Time to shit or get off the pot, they couldn’t disrupt the lad more than they already have - now is the time to show us the money, I’m starting to think they haven’t got the dosh we will quite rightly expect at this stage. Next summer was the time to play silly fuckers like this - 3 years left on the contract puts the ball a lot more firmly in our court. 

[TRon]

The only way Isak should be allowed to leave is if Howe wants him gone. Period. 

[Nobody]

50 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

It needs sorting before Villa, if we go into the Liverpool game with Isak still not playing because of the uncertainty while Liverpool have a full squad to choose from.

I'd rather he be sat in his house in Newcastle watching it than playing got Liverpool in that game mind. 

[Displayname]

11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Have you not thought about what would happen?

 

Every player, agent and competing club in the world will know that not only will we let our top players leave if they're unsettled/kick up a fuss - regardless of how long is left on their contract, but that the club who want our player can also sign our #1 replacement for that player and then still sign our player.

 

Everyone will know we're happy to sell to a rival within the same league and that even when we hold all the cards we're a soft touch. The optics would be bad enough, but the actual precedent it would set would be terrible.

 

Everyone, from existing players and agents, to potential ones, to other clubs, to our own fans will know we're a soft touch and can be treated as such.

 

The supporter's faith in the 'project' would take a massive hit, their faith in PIF at all would take a massive hit, and all of that translates on to the terraces and then onto the field.

 

And what about Howe and his future. His opinion is that he should stay. Selling him and moving on is against our manager's wishes. 

 

It's absolutely ridiculous to say we should just let him go and move on tbh, the club moving on wouldn't resemble the same one that let him go.

 

 

 

 

I do agree with some of your points regarding the impression left behind if we let players get their way after kicking up a fuss. But I dont think its that bad if we stick to our ground and only let him go for what we believe his value is. I kinda also don't want those type of players here, so when they show their hands good riddance I'd say. Eddie himself said that he only wanted players who are desperate to play here.

 

And on the other hand if we don't let him get his "dream move" it also can have a negative impact on players wanting to come here.

 

Don't think supporters will lose faith if we sell and him reinvest massively into the squad. Sure people can be sceptical about if we will do that considering how the summer so far has gone. But we have always stayed close to our PSR limit so far and i don't see why that will change myself.

 

And I'm assuming that if he goes it will be with the "blessing" of Eddie, its not like i want the club to overrule him on this matter.

 

[Joelinton7]

from bbc 

 

Newcastle United manager Eddie Howe has admitted the future of striker Alexander Isak is "not in my full control."

 

Howe was speaking at a press conference on Tuesday in Suwon, where the Magpies face a K League XI in a pre-season friendly on Wednesday. 

 

"He is still our player. He’s contracted to us," said Howe, when asked about Isak's situation. 

 

"We, to a degree, control what is next for him. I would love to believe all possibilities are still available to us.

 

"My wish is that he stays, but that’s not in my full control."

[Kimbo]

The question isn’t whether we’ll sell Isak, he will be sold. The question is the timing. He has 3 years left, we’re late in the window, and we’re unable to get a proper replacement. If we wait until next summer maybe his value will be knocked slightly, on the other hand maybe there will be more competition to drive up the price. It seems that the interests of the club are best served by telling Isak we’ll sell next summer, if he plays well he’ll have plenty of choice.

[mighty__mag]

18 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The player power wins thing is a complete myth. There are countless examples of players who want a move, throw their toys out of the pram and the club still says no.

 

 

 

 

It's definitely not a myth.

 

There's also countless examples of player power also.

 

Can't start taking bets on who's going to be right or wrong here.

 

Ideally all went the same thing.

 

I just dont see it though pal.

 

 

[tarie4]

2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

from bbc 

 

Newcastle United manager Eddie Howe has admitted the future of striker Alexander Isak is "not in my full control."

 

Howe was speaking at a press conference on Tuesday in Suwon, where the Magpies face a K League XI in a pre-season friendly on Wednesday. 

 

"He is still our player. He’s contracted to us," said Howe, when asked about Isak's situation. 

 

"We, to a degree, control what is next for him. I would love to believe all possibilities are still available to us.

 

"My wish is that he stays, but that’s not in my full control."

Correct, he said last time that it was on the control of the Nufc board not him. This is just bad journalism. So wouldn't read too much into this.

[Turnbull2000]

Even if we somehow get £150m for him this week, it's difficult to believe we'll put the money to good use. Elenaga apart, we already had money burning in our pockets this summer and it's been a complete disaster.

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

 

It's definitely not a myth.

 

There's also countless examples of player power also.

 

Can't start taking bets on who's going to be right or wrong here.

 

Ideally all went the same thing.

 

I just dont see it though pal.

 

 

Okay, well then player power always wins is a complete myth, it just is.

 

If we let him go there we deserve absolutely everything we get tbh.

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Okay, well then player power always wins is a complete myth, it just is.

 

If we let him go there we deserve absolutely everything we get tbh.

Absolutely this. We are better off keeping him for a season and him potentially losing value than giving him to a rival for anything less than an absurd fee. And even then, given how they have apparently acted, I wouldn’t even do that. Otherwise we should just announce to the world that we are nothing but a feeder club for the cartel.