relámpago blanco Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 3 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: I wonder if any bookies will offer a spread for how many times the word "Isak" is said during commentary of the match. I reckon 22-34 times sounds about right. Every few mins during the times Liverpool weren't winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 20 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Every few mins during the times Liverpool weren't winning "When Isak isn't on the screen, all the other commentators should be asking where's Isak" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 52 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: He’s got refusal to play. That’s it. If he refuses to play we probably lose millions in prize money, potential sponsorships and extra ticket sales from progression in cups. What he loses he will make up with a massive wage increase at his next club most likely. It might not come to that but our le agree isn’t what we think it is imo. hopefully I’m wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRC said: I feel people are massively underestimating how strong Isaks hand is in all of this and the influence of some American Sports are having on players, where player power is absolutely king. Is it? In the NBA maybe due to the impact a single star can have, but in the other big leagues player power has never been weaker. NFL players contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. The majority of the money is not guaranteed and all but a few QBs can be cut at any time with little to no penalty. Meanwhile Baseball owners are openly colluding to suppress the free agent market for anyone over the age of 27 and no one can stop them. Edited August 16, 2025 by Pandamninator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 Just now, Pandamninator said: Is it? In the NBA maybe due to the impact a single star can have, but in the other big leagues player power has never been weaker. NFL players contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. The majority of the money is not guaranteed and all but a few QBs can be cut at any time with little to no penalty. Meanwhile Baseball owners are openly colluding to suppress the free agent market for anyone over the age of 27 and no one can stop them. Fair, I’m mainly meaning the NBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 I think the issue is the American sport “power” may inspire this behavior but, contracts are league and country specific. It’s not apples to apples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentRobert Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 3 hours ago, JUICE690 said: Don't they need a second striker though? (Obviously it doesn't need to be Isak). Ekitike looks so good. It just seems foolish to kill his development by having him sitting on the bench. Liverpool need a forward that's happy to sit in the bench (the Jota role) and Isak does not fit that profile. If I was Liverpool I'd be spending more money on defesive reinforcements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 16 minutes ago, TRC said: If he refuses to play we probably lose millions in prize money, potential sponsorships and extra ticket sales from progression in cups. What he loses he will make up with a massive wage increase at his next club most likely. It might not come to that but our le agree isn’t what we think it is imo. hopefully I’m wrong Yeah, it definitely carries the risk of substantial negative consequences for the club. But it does for him, too—including, but not limited to: (1) being well known as a lying, contract-breaking, no-mark, mother-fucking weasel, and (2) languishing on the shelf for a duration he doesn’t control, up to the remainder of his contract, when he should be competing on the world stage in the prime of his career. It’s absolutely leverage, but it’s also absolutely last-ditch, blow it all fucking up stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 I'm now more open to the idea to selling Isak, at a lowered price, to get him out of the club. Even if we sell him at £120M we're making a good profit. We should sell him at a lower fee, to move him on and get his toxicity out of the club. But we should refuse to sell him to another Premier League club and we should put a persistent sell-on clause, into the sale agreement, that must be put in all of his future contracts (like a persistent lien), that says if he is ever sold to Liverpool then Newcastle United gets £40M of that sale fee. This would effectively prevent him from ever ending up at Liverpool (if he did Newcastle gets a nice cash bonus), thereby punishing Isak and Liverpool for their behaviours, and it would send a message to all other clubs and players to not behave this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 This whole saga will have given Isak plenty of valuable life experience. Will he learn from it is the key question? Im not going to hold my breath. Liverpool played him and his agent for a right pair of idiots, and for what? It's ruined our pre-season and most likely the entirety of his season. Even if he gets on his hands and knees, and offers up a grovelling apology, I'll never look at him the same way. Once a rat, always a rat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 I got my little boy the new 25/26 kit last month and was umming and ahhing about whose name to get on the back and nearly went with Isak. Thankfully, I didn't and instead got Bruno G. 39. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 29 minutes ago, Montey said: I'm now more open to the idea to selling Isak, at a lowered price, to get him out of the club. Even if we sell him at £120M we're making a good profit. We should sell him at a lower fee, to move him on and get his toxicity out of the club. But we should refuse to sell him to another Premier League club and we should put a persistent sell-on clause, into the sale agreement, that must be put in all of his future contracts (like a persistent lien), that says if he is ever sold to Liverpool then Newcastle United gets £40M of that sale fee. This would effectively prevent him from ever ending up at Liverpool (if he did Newcastle gets a nice cash bonus), thereby punishing Isak and Liverpool for their behaviours, and it would send a message to all other clubs and players to not behave this way. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 36 minutes ago, Montey said: I'm now more open to the idea to selling Isak, at a lowered price, to get him out of the club. Even if we sell him at £120M we're making a good profit. We should sell him at a lower fee, to move him on and get his toxicity out of the club. But we should refuse to sell him to another Premier League club and we should put a persistent sell-on clause, into the sale agreement, that must be put in all of his future contracts (like a persistent lien), that says if he is ever sold to Liverpool then Newcastle United gets £40M of that sale fee. This would effectively prevent him from ever ending up at Liverpool (if he did Newcastle gets a nice cash bonus), thereby punishing Isak and Liverpool for their behaviours, and it would send a message to all other clubs and players to not behave this way. To be fair, that's probably what 90% of the fanbase is thinking right now. Anywhere But Liverpool, even with a lowered price, but with a solid sell-on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 2 minutes ago, Emotic said: To be fair, that's probably what 90% of the fanbase is thinking right now. Anywhere But Liverpool, even with a lowered price, but with a solid sell-on. It's not like, if they have a brain. He's a £150 Million asset, he should be treated like that. If he is sold for less that won't be this season or even next. It'll be when he has 12 months ths remaining like Kane to Bayern at 30 years old for 110 Million Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 57 minutes ago, Montey said: I'm now more open to the idea to selling Isak, at a lowered price, to get him out of the club. Even if we sell him at £120M we're making a good profit. We should sell him at a lower fee, to move him on and get his toxicity out of the club. But we should refuse to sell him to another Premier League club and we should put a persistent sell-on clause, into the sale agreement, that must be put in all of his future contracts (like a persistent lien), that says if he is ever sold to Liverpool then Newcastle United gets £40M of that sale fee. This would effectively prevent him from ever ending up at Liverpool (if he did Newcastle gets a nice cash bonus), thereby punishing Isak and Liverpool for their behaviours, and it would send a message to all other clubs and players to not behave this way. Can you name all of these clubs not in the Premier League that are offering to buy him for 120 million right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 Yeah like the reason we can value him so highly is because he is proven in the PL. Teams from other league won't care about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 This stupid cunt went on strike and in realty he should be lining up tomorrow for us ready to match 3 points our title rivals did today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 2 hours ago, TRC said: If he refuses to play we probably lose millions in prize money, potential sponsorships and extra ticket sales from progression in cups. What he loses he will make up with a massive wage increase at his next club most likely. It might not come to that but our le agree isn’t what we think it is imo. hopefully I’m wrong Surely if you believe that, then that's the case If we sell him too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 6 hours ago, TRC said: I feel people are massively underestimating how strong Isaks hand is in all of this and the influence of some American Sports are having on players, where player power is absolutely king. Eh ? he's playing snooker with a rope V Ronnie as far as I can see He demands nothing, he controls nada, he dictates zero He's showing himself to be the absolute cunt that he is & PIF are i'm sure helping promote that via their own vast contacts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 Scenes when he's named on the bench "having recovered from his thigh injury" as though nothing has happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 3 hours ago, Kanj said: This stupid cunt went on strike and in realty he should be lining up tomorrow for us ready to match 3 points our title rivals did today. Makes me wonder how he will feel watching (from home) one of his (probably 12) peak senior seasons sail away without him on board. It’s got to burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Makes me wonder how he will feel watching (from home) one of his (probably 12) peak senior seasons sail away without him on board. It’s got to burn. The poor little lamb hasn’t even got a home to call his own anymore, he’ll be stood outside the front window of Curry’s watching the match on a telly, in a scene reminiscent of Tiny Tim pressing his nose up to the ice cold frosted glass outside a toy shop on Christmas Eve Edited August 16, 2025 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: The poor little lamb hasn’t even got a home to call his own anymore, he’ll be stood outside the front window of Curry’s watching the match on a telly, in a scene reminiscent of Tiny Tim pressing his nose up to the ice cold frosted glass outside a toy shop on Christmas Eve I hope its excruciating for him and I hope we win without him and get Wissa in first thing next week, the more isolated and useless he feels, the better after this fiasco. I don't want him to come crawling back with his tail between his legs, I want him to beg to be allowed to play again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: The poor little lamb hasn’t even got a home to call his own anymore, he’ll be stood outside the front window of Curry’s watching the match on a telly, in a scene reminiscent of Tiny Tim pressing his nose up to the ice cold frosted glass outside a toy shop on Christmas Eve His only friend left in the world apart from his agent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 16, 2025 Share Posted August 16, 2025 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: His only friend left in the world apart from his agent Steve Bruce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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