Alexander Isak: has a chance to play against Everton (Howe)

[Keegans Export]

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

16 hours ago, relámpago blanco said:

It was the control for his second that was outrageous. I think it went unnoticed. There was a fair amount of pace on the ball and he just controlled it so well.

The finish was easy, it was the control that was the world class element. 

[TheBrownBottle]

23 hours ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that isn't static, our amortisation costs fall by around by around £20m every year, which is equivalent to £100m in transfer fees.

Our amortisation costs don’t change by a penny unless a player is released, sold or signs a new contract

[Kilcline]

Wew, Troy Deeney has managed to include him in his team of the week and not mention Arsenal while doing so. Need a lie down

[TRon]

44 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The finish was easy, it was the control that was the world class element. 

 

 

He makes those finishes look easy tbf. A bit like he made the penalty look easy.

[The College Dropout]

23 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

They were sceptical of the signing man and were going on about his goal record. His one good year in Spain was sandwiched between two single digit league seasons. 

 

I am surrounded by them lot and heard it all first hand over and over again. I had just seen him in the Euros for Sweden and thought he'd be great for them, and they were telling me otherwise.

I disagree man. Those times they had Lacazette upfront. We must know a whole different type of Arsenal fan.

 

23 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

The years we had the biggest losses will be dropping off the 3 year calculations, which will help alleviate things. Pretty sure that's how it works.

And they will be replaced by years when our amortisation and squad costs are so high vs revenue that we can't spend significant amounts of money without sales.

 

The proof is literally in the pudding  our recent transfer record and the comments from Howe and that players agents.

23 hours ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that isn't static, our amortisation costs fall by around by around £20m every year, which is equivalent to £100m in transfer fees.

No it doesn't. Amortisation only drops with sales and contract extensions (and releases).

 

Typically speaking - if your squad is improving and you are renewing your best players AND buying more players, your amortisation and wages costs will only increase. 

16 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Disclaimer on costs continuing after the first year but we could service £100m of purchases on £20m sale profit.

 

The key for this summer is CL, we had a bump last season on revenue for it which was then replaced with the Adidas deal this year so getting I'm again will be a good bump up again.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a break in the Sela deal after next year. We would be well placed to justify a further jump from the £25m deal with 2 cl campaigns under the belt and having one of the most high profile players on the world wearing the number 9.

 

Fuck it, pay to break the deal this summer and go all out with a new partner or increased Sela fee for next year 

The new CL format is more lucrative, I think the minimum a club like ours would make has risen but I'm not sure what the figure is. All-in it must be closer to £40m as from memory we made about £30m the last time.

 

But the new CL format is a killer for the PL for us and Howe's style. It's a nice one-off bump. But what we need is guaranteed recurring revenue. A productive academy/player sales, commercial deals and a stadium. 

[Jackie Broon]

28 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Our amortisation costs don’t change by a penny unless a player is released, sold or signs a new contract

 

Technically, but in reality players are on fixed term contracts, so there will allways be contracts expiring and being renewed or the players released. So, as I said, it is not static.

 

The latest accounts actually include a projection of amortisation costs over 5 years and they fall by £18m and £22m respectively over the next two years.

 

(I realise the actual fall might me more of less than that depending on timing and length of new contracts, sales and purchases)

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I feel like the chances he misses are because he's usually trying to do something different when he's through on goal. Whether that's to keep goalkeepers guessing all the time or just because he likes the challenge it's hard to know, probably both. He's actually exceptionally good at using his first touch to move the ball into the perfect position for the finish.  He scored at the gallowgate in open play the other week and sent the keeper the wrong way, there was no need for him to do this at all. 

[Paully]

Different levels this chap - world class! 

[KaKa]

55 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I disagree man. Those times they had Lacazette upfront. We must know a whole different type of Arsenal fan.

 

When that whole license plate thing occured it was mid season.

 

Isak had scored 4 goals in 17 matches so far. They were not excited about signing him and were talking about his previous good season being a possible anomaly.

 

The guy they were excited about was Vlahovic who they were also being strongly linked with at the time, and who was going crazy at Fiorentina, scoring a bunch of goals.

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

 

And they will be replaced by years when our amortisation and squad costs are so high vs revenue that we can't spend significant amounts of money without sales.

 

The proof is literally in the pudding  our recent transfer record and the comments from Howe and that players agents.

 

PSR is based on an allowance of up to £105 million in losses over the previous 3 years.

 

This summer the 21/22 season drops off the calculation, where we spent a bunch and didn't have any new income arranged yet. It will be replaced with this season which will include new income and where we didn't spend much in the market.

 

This is all explained here:- https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5599305/2024/07/01/newcastle-psr-player-sales/

 

Although further exits will follow, for now, at least, the focus turns to incomings and Howe’s desire to sign a centre-back, right-winger, forward and another goalkeeper. With the 2021-22 accounts dropping off the three-year PSR period and lucrative sponsorships like the shirt agreement with Adidas bolstering Newcastle’s income, they should now have decent capacity to invest in their squad again

 

 

[The College Dropout]

10 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

When that whole license plate thing occured it was mid season.

 

Isak had scored 4 goals in 17 matches so far. They were not excited about signing him and were talking about his previous good season being a possible anomaly.

 

The guy they were excited about was Vlahovic who they were also being strongly linked with at the time, and who was going crazy at Fiorentina, scoring a bunch of goals.

Again - we must know different Arsenal fans. That Isak plate went viral because they were excited. Again - this is a team that had Lacazette up top.

 

Let's agree to disagree.

[loki679]

17 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

PSR is based on an allowance of up to £105 million in losses over the previous 3 years.

 

This summer the 21/22 season drops off the calculation, where we spent a bunch and didn't have any new income arranged yet. It will be replaced with this season which will include new income and where we didn't spend much in the market.

 

This is all explained here:- https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5599305/2024/07/01/newcastle-psr-player-sales/

 

Although further exits will follow, for now, at least, the focus turns to incomings and Howe’s desire to sign a centre-back, right-winger, forward and another goalkeeper. With the 2021-22 accounts dropping off the three-year PSR period and lucrative sponsorships like the shirt agreement with Adidas bolstering Newcastle’s income, they should now have decent capacity to invest in their squad again

 

 

 

But that doesn't matter anymore does it?  I thought it was changing to squad cost vs revenue this year so we can only spend a maximum 70% of our revenue on wages / amortisation etc.  Last figures I saw had us at 68%.

[80]

On 15/01/2025 at 01:03, 80 said:

Basically, you're right about the three year period. Year 1 drops off when Year 4 comes along, and then Year 2 drops off when Year 5 comes along. 

 

But if you buy someone in Year 1 on a 5 year contract, in PSR you're still paying exactly the same amount for him in Year 5 as you were back at the start.

 

E.g. a £50m transfer fee plus £5m wages per year equals a cost of £15m in Year 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (that's the £5m wages plus a portion of the transfer fee).

 

So even though we bought Bruno, Burn and Trippier four PSR seasons ago, in PSR we're still paying the same for them now as we were originally, and will be next season too. So the amount we're spending each season in PSR-world has gone up every season, pretty much like a snowball rolling down a hill.

 

For nitpickers, I'm just trying to keep the explanation simple and without more complications than necessary.

@KaKa

 

The quoted post (plus others following it in the thread) pretty much sums up the situation with PSR. We should have some room for manoeuvre but it's not just a case of heavy losses from 3 years ago dropping off unfortunately.

[Jackie Broon]

12 minutes ago, loki679 said:

 

But that doesn't matter anymore does it?  I thought it was changing to squad cost vs revenue this year so we can only spend a maximum 70% of our revenue on wages / amortisation etc.  Last figures I saw had us at 68%.

 

It's not replacing the current PSR allowable losses, it's in addition to that.

[The College Dropout]

26 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

PSR is based on an allowance of up to £105 million in losses over the previous 3 years.

 

This summer the 21/22 season drops off the calculation, where we spent a bunch and didn't have any new income arranged yet. It will be replaced with this season which will include new income and where we didn't spend much in the market.

 

This is all explained here:- https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5599305/2024/07/01/newcastle-psr-player-sales/

 

Although further exits will follow, for now, at least, the focus turns to incomings and Howe’s desire to sign a centre-back, right-winger, forward and another goalkeeper. With the 2021-22 accounts dropping off the three-year PSR period and lucrative sponsorships like the shirt agreement with Adidas bolstering Newcastle’s income, they should now have decent capacity to invest in their squad again

 

 

I know how FFP works and while I’m not an accountant I seemingly know more about it than you.  
 

Our wages were 75% of revenue alone. Add amortisation and we are likely already eating into our allowable losses. 
 

Whenever the UEFA and PL rule changes kick-in our wages and amortisation costs must be a maximum of 75% (or close - forget off hand) of revenue. Forecasting From the facts we know today, that’s going to be difficult to achieve while keeping our best players and significantly improving the squad. 

[KaKa]

11 minutes ago, 80 said:

@KaKa

 

The quoted post (plus others following it in the thread) pretty much sums up the situation with PSR. We should have some room for manoeuvre but it's not just a case of heavy losses from 3 years ago dropping off unfortunately.

 

Yes, I know that's not the only thing, but it's a big part of it. I think the article I posted explains it all quite well.

 

Room to manoeuvre is what we need, rather than not being able to spend at all like the summer past.

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I know how FFP works and while I’m not an accountant I seemingly know more about it than you.  
 

Our wages were 75% of revenue alone. Add amortisation and we are likely already eating into our allowable losses. 
 

Whenever the UEFA and PL rule changes kick-in our wages and amortisation costs must be a maximum of 75% (or close - forget off hand) of revenue. Forecasting From the facts we know today, that’s going to be difficult to achieve while keeping our best players and significantly improving the squad. 

 

Yes, I know this is your obsession.

 

When the summer comes along we'll see what transpires.

[loki679]

7 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

It's not replacing the current PSR allowable losses, it's in addition to that.

 

What the fuck? Why???

[Dancing Brave]

[Dr.Spaceman]

That's got to be fake, Sky don't use capitals in their channel names

 

 

Edited January 27 by Dr.Spaceman

[SteV]

[M1tche]

On 26/01/2025 at 20:15, relámpago blanco said:

Yeah, it's weird though. Maybe they have the same dad but they don't know. Definitely something weird going on in understanding.

I've played with a few players over the years, where it just seems to click. 1 of them I didn't even get on with at all off the pitch. It's brilliant to see, Isak had similar building with Willock before his string of injuries. 

[BlueStar]

 

[Ben]

3 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

 

 

Luke Edwards has got them rattled