MileyCyrus Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 46 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: I think he has to go, he's burnt too many bridges and I think it might have an effect on the dressing room if he stays. As Howe has said many times before, we need to protect that at all costs. Who do we get after Wissa? I'm really not sure I personally would take Jackson at a reasonable price. Been said before but we can't lose both our strikers to the afcon in January. Jackson and wissa isn't going to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we can afford it/have the PSR room then I think we need to. Isak has been a cunt on this occasion but not a good look on our part for future talents or even our best players now, where they'd have to look elsewhere if they want paid the best in the world salaries. Wrong. He could have went through his agent and asked nicely while detailing all the good he brings to the club. Instead, he acts like an entitled brat and brings shame down on the club. He deserves fuck all except derision and his teammates farting in his face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 2 hours ago, LFEE said: Sure it wasn’t Pete Graves he was speaking to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 1 hour ago, Harry 209 said: Posted by who? Unless they are a reliable source this sounds like pure fantasy from someone wanting to stir the pot. It's complete nonsense that Whatsapp message. As if Eddie would say he was only picking Isak because the fans would turn on him otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cf said: Are they expected to win it again? Bookies probably have them as favourites as they won last year but they've gone through quite a few changes and have aging Salah/VVD and a suspect defence. This is turning into Slot's team rather than Klopps. Think there's easily a world where they're fighting around 4th-5th with the rest of us and I wouldn't be surprised if the top of the league is a little more open this season compared to others. I don't particularly expect us to be fighting for the league title but the squad have to be going into the season with that as an aspiration. Fair, well we’ll see. We’re they to buy Isak they’d be sacrificing a CB purchase and that could be an issue. I just don’t think we should keep him at all costs if there’s an option to sign for Liverpool for the right price. He’s already burnt his bridges, is not doing anyone any favours creating a toxic environment here and I would look forward to giving him stick with Liverpool. Certainly teams I’d much rather him join mind. Edited August 11, 2025 by St. Maximin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 6 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: Fair, well we’ll see. We’re they to buy Isak they’d be sacrificing a CB purchase and that could be an issue. I just don’t think we should keep him at all costs if there’s an option to sign for Liverpool for the right price. He’s already burnt his bridges, is not doing anyone any favours creating a toxic environment here and I would look forward to giving him stick with Liverpool. Certainly teams I’d much rather him join mind. Selling to Liverpool sets the standard that the way this has unfolded is acceptable and will result in nonNUFC parties getting what they want. Keep Isak training by himself for as long as the leadership group feel he should be, or until a non Liverpool team comes and offers our valuation. Caving on this just sets a precedent not that we will sell our best assets, because thats fine, we can do that when appropriate. It sets the standard that if a players are bigger then us, and that will have more damaging impact on the squad as they see Isak being rewarded for derailing their preseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 12 minutes ago, wiseman said: Selling to Liverpool sets the standard that the way this has unfolded is acceptable and will result in nonNUFC parties getting what they want. Keep Isak training by himself for as long as the leadership group feel he should be, or until a non Liverpool team comes and offers our valuation. Caving on this just sets a precedent not that we will sell our best assets, because thats fine, we can do that when appropriate. It sets the standard that if a players are bigger then us, and that will have more damaging impact on the squad as they see Isak being rewarded for derailing their preseason. This. A line in the sand has been drawn and we should not cross it. We’ll be far stronger and respected for it. All parties, buyers and players alike will know we are not to be messed with. It’s for the greater good, not bending to Isak or Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 28 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: It’s for the greater good, not bending to Isak or Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Sets the tone for all future dealings. Has to be this. Of course it has to be. The scouse cunts and Isak have to be put in their place. You will then have both us and Forest putting out a massive statement of fuck you in a matter of a few weeks apart. Edited August 12, 2025 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 Scoring winners in important matches isn't downing tools. He's obviously not very popular around here but let's not completely make shit up. The last two matches he was bad. Other than that his form post final was good imo. 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) 44 minutes ago, dcmk said: Scoring winners in important matches isn't downing tools. He's obviously not very popular around here but let's not completely make shit up. The last two matches he was bad. Other than that his form post final was good imo. 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games. Of the 10 games after the final, he played in 9 ("injured" for the crucial Arsenal away game). In those 9, he managed 2 goals from open play and had one assist. Did score 2 pelanties. Ran out of steam and HAULED OFF before the final whistle in 8 of those 9 games (all except Brighton.) Mostly around the 75 minute mark. Edited August 12, 2025 by GideonShandy Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 56 minutes ago, dcmk said: Scoring winners in important matches isn't downing tools. He's obviously not very popular around here but let's not completely make shit up. The last two matches he was bad. Other than that his form post final was good imo. 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games. Nearly every game he looked poor mind we all thought he was carrying an injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 13 minutes ago, andycap said: Nearly every game he looked poor mind we all thought he was carrying an injury. Isn't carrying an injury more plausible than downing tools? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Not when it's now been revealed that he's used the same injury as a cover for downing tools Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovetoon8788 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 What a loser cunt. Burned bridges and even the fans who did such a tifo for him. I don't think our players like him and he has been alienated by them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 hours ago, dcmk said: Scoring winners in important matches isn't downing tools. He's obviously not very popular around here but let's not completely make shit up. The last two matches he was bad. Other than that his form post final was good imo. 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games. Or 2 goals in his last 6 games, both of which were penalties. Depends on how you want to dress it up I suppose, but his overall performance since the League Cup Final was well below the standards he'd set himself previously. No doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 hour ago, dcmk said: Isn't carrying an injury more plausible than downing tools? With recent events is it really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 hours ago, dcmk said: Scoring winners in important matches isn't downing tools. He's obviously not very popular around here but let's not completely make shit up. The last two matches he was bad. Other than that his form post final was good imo. 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games. Did you see the performances ? Looked like he was carrying an injury/holding himself back, in light of what we now see is it not more probable he just sacked it off ? Stuff the form as expressed like that, you can score while playing shit and being half arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentRobert Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 9 minutes ago, madras said: Did you see the performances ? Looked like he was carrying an injury/holding himself back, in light of what we now see is it not more probable he just sacked it off ? Stuff the form as expressed like that, you can score while playing shit and being half arsed. He did pull out of the world cup qualifiers for Sweden due to said injury however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 16 minutes ago, LaurentRobert said: He did pull out of the world cup qualifiers for Sweden due to said injury however Obviously only wants Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 7 hours ago, gdm said: The club will want to give him a new deal. Likely as part of reintegration and getting him motivated. As far as us being screwed I doubt it. He goes next summer wether he signs a new deal or not. You think Isak, on the same deal until next summer, will get us 130 million plus 10 million, like you said a while back? I really don't think so. If we don't give him a new contract, his value will tank because he'll be bummed out all year, and we'll have to sell next summer not on our terms. If he signs a new deal, we can sell him next year on our terms. Also, getting Isak to sign a new contract is crucial because we can add clauses to protect the club from a sale next summer if we do well this season, like qualifying for the Champions League, you know? Like I said, we could put in a 150 million release clause if we make it to the Champions League. If we don't, maybe 130. Like Ben Jacobs said, either Isak gets sold to Liverpool this summer for a price we like, or he signs a new deal. No other option. It's super important to protect ourselves and control whether we sell Isak, not him or another club. If we don't offer him a new contract, we lose that control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 8 hours ago, joeyt said: Probably a massive Giggs but I cba going back through all the posts in here but is this what you were on about Paully? Saw it was posted on social media yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 8 hours ago, GideonShandy said: Let's say he signs a new deal exactly as you've described. How would we be any better off next summer, if he kicks off again the same way he has this summer? The only justification for a new contract would be if you think that (1) it'll put him in such a better frame of mind that he decides he wants to stay after all and give 100% and (2) it won't infuriate the rest of the playing staff. It's all about control, yeah? We're holding off Liverpool now 'cause he's got three years left, and we're also gonna offer him a new contract 'cause he deserves it. So, we can play it tough. Isak signs with a release clause, like I said. 150 if we're in the Champions League, 130 if not. If he wants to go (and we're in the CL), they pay 150 million, simple as that. We stay in control, just like now. We protect our position. He has to sign a contract if he stays. If we dont get him to sign a new deal it's a huge screw-up, like when Mitchell bailed on talks with him last year. Seriously, a real blunder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 8 hours ago, cubaricho said: No he doesn’t. He really does, I think. He'll be up for it, too. We gotta use that to our advantage since we'll have all the power in those talks. It's a good time to lock down control over any future Isak sale on our terms. We can't miss this chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Howe wants a solution, he said that at the weekend so they must have asked Isak what he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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