KennyUtd Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, Displayname said: They and Isak will come worse out of this imo. Nothing will happen to Liverpool like. They'll be hailed for freeing Isak from his torture and be sucked off by the media for the rest of the season. Newcastle need to know their place etc. etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, Jaqen said: Bloke scored the winning goal in the first cup win in most of our lives yet will be leaving a bigger prick than Michael Owen This. He has cast a shadow over our best-ever season in living memory, disrupted our pre-season preparations, undermined our transfer business throughout the window, and sullied irreparably the adoration from this passionate fanbase (and his reputation with other fans and pundits). It's a helluva scorched-earth policy when it was literally easier to just act like a fucking professional and get the business done without antagonising anyone. This stance can only strengthen our resolve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 7 minutes ago, thomas said: I hate unsalvagable situations but if that's the way he wants it the club will be around a lot longer than his career will. Off to the reserves with ye. For the first time since the option was brought up I am thinking he might just wait until the 27th and pull the article 17 shenanigans, and hope Liverpool will just wait on him. They won't though. They don't value him that highly and won't go anywhere near the £150m IMO. They'll hope we relent and sell for a lot less, maybe £120-130m otherwise they'll sign someone else I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, huss9 said: take £130m and move on Nah, that's what he and Liverpool want Giving in to them is the last thing we need to do I'd personally not sell at all but if we are going to then it has to be at the £150m that we've seemingly put out there as the price it would take, anything less and we've been made to look like mugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovetoon8788 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 3 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Bloke scored the winning goal in the first cup win in most of our lives yet will be leaving a bigger prick than Michael Owen agreed. i think he is worse than owen. what a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TRon said: Would that not be a breach of contract? We terminate his contract for breach; he then goes to Liverpool. That’s what he wants. I am not an employment lawyer but we sue him for breach of contract, for £150m if you were, but he still goes to Liverpool who probably indemnify him for any damages. Any court action will take years. To be honest that would set a terrible precedent for football so if I was advising Liverpool I would not go anywhere near that. Edited August 12, 2025 by Rosenrot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, Displayname said: They and Isak will come worse out of this imo. Media will back the dipper narrative however this goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, thomas said: Article 17 is fifa's rules around transfers and such. the TL;DR is if he stays at here until the 26th, he’ll be past the "three-year protected period" under Article 17 of his contract, which mean that then he could legally end the contract by paying compensation on his remaining wages and sign immediately with whoever he wants I don’t think it’s that easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, huss9 said: take £130m and move on That's what they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, FloydianMag said: Media will back the dipper narrative however this goes. This is the absolute truth. No matter what, they'll side with Israt and Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, TRon said: They won't though. They don't value him that highly and won't go anywhere near the £150m IMO. They'll hope we relent and sell for a lot less, maybe £120-130m otherwise they'll sign someone else I reckon. in the end he's going to look back and realize it wasn't worth it to set everything on fire. head turned by greedy agents? always a cunt on the inside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 If we have ambitions to break into top echelons of European football, we cant be seen to be allowing our best plyers to leave. Especially to one of our league rivals. Hopefully someone else comes in like PSG or Barcelona and we can close this chapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, thomas said: Article 17 is fifa's rules around transfers and such. the TL;DR is if he stays at here until the 26th, he’ll be past the "three-year protected period" under Article 17 of his contract, which mean that then he could legally end the contract by paying compensation on his remaining wages and sign immediately with whoever he wants. It's a super bad look for a lot of reasons but they're setting fire to every bridge that gets built so what else are they hoping for? Surely it can't be that easy, means they get him for less than £20m Surely there has to be another amount factored into it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 36 minutes ago, duo said: I wish we'd make more of a deal about Liverpool tapping him up as he clearly was Agreed, but proving it may well be the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Fans of other clubs see it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, thomas said: in the end he's going to look back and realize it wasn't worth it to set everything on fire. head turned by greedy agents? always a cunt on the inside? I think he's just a cold calculating type tbh. He doesn't have loyalty to anyone except himself. Same will be true if he moves to Liverpool and Barcelona come calling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I genuinely cant understand the mentality of anyone who says "get rid" or "let him go" etc. Do they not realise by giving him what he wants we are just allowing other players to do the same? Make him stay, his value will hold. Sell him next summer and add a Liverpool tax. The crucial thing in all of this is making sure we get Wissa. Wissas injury record is good and would probably see us through most of the season. We could even find a loan deal for someone to support him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Surely it can't be that easy, means they get him for less than £20m Surely there has to be another amount factored into it The biggest factor is if Isak can do it to us, Isak, Salah, Gakpo, Eikitike can do it to them and Barcelona, Real Madrid etc can just indemnify the players for the lost earnings, and there won't be any transfer fees for anyone anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Surely it can't be that easy, means they get him for less than £20m Surely there has to be another amount factored into it Probably is that easy in theory but no club wants to rely on it because as soon as the precedent is set the resale value of players drops to effectively zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Fucking Skinny Judas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 22 minutes ago, JP said: Some more from the Ornstein piece: - told Howe he wanted out 2 weeks before season ended - reiterated this message to Howe after the final day defeat to Everton and flew home to Sweden the day after Putting in a transfer request means less money for him, it's so pathetic when you are refusing to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 £150m or let him rot in the reserves. Surely should be able to give him fines as well for refusing to do his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just tried ringing TS I'm that raging😂 1000% his agents doing or else he would have put in an official transfer request. I still don't think he will go due to the stubbornness of the Saudi's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Imagine if the “Isak rule” comes out of this. Move over, Bosman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Surely it can't be that easy, means they get him for less than £20m Surely there has to be another amount factored into it 5 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: I don’t think it’s that easy. well,no, I put tl;dr because there's a lot of process skipped but the long and short of it is he can do that under fifa contract laws/rules. might be snarled in court for a short while but he could get out "for cheap" and there's no evidence the club he signed for instigated it. Edited August 12, 2025 by thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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