Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[La Parka]

2 minutes ago, HawK said:

 

[aussiemag]

Ultimately for Liverpool to get out of this mess, both Slot and Salah need to leave. Problem is, if they sack Slot now it looks like Salah holds the power. 
So Salah will leave in January. Slot will follow him out the door if results dont turn around. So Slot has 4 weeks or so, without Salah, to turn this around. 

[1964]

3 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

Ultimately for Liverpool to get out of this mess, both Slot and Salah need to leave. Problem is, if they sack Slot now it looks like Salah holds the power. 
So Salah will leave in January. Slot will follow him out the door if results dont turn around. So Slot has 4 weeks or so, without Salah, to turn this around. 

Salah has been awful so wouldn’t be too much of a miss

[GeordieDazzler]

12 minutes ago, duo said:

Salah has basically fallen into Slot's trap - notice all news is about Salah now and not how poor Slot has been.

Not really, Salah is about to be absent for a month anyway. If Liverpool continue to falter, which feels likely, the pendulum will quickly swing back the other way. 

[aussiemag]

6 minutes ago, 1964 said:

Salah has been awful so wouldn’t be too much of a miss

 

They have been awful without Salah as well. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

9 hours ago, Heron said:

All very non-Liverpool behaviour they're exhibiting if you ask me. I will firmly place my tin hat on here but when I think of Liverpool as a club and generally scousers as a people I think of them being gritty, hard-working and united albeit probably a bit devious, mischievous and split by football. I know its just stereotyping but there's usually some (at least small) element of truth to stereotypes.

 

You think of Hillsbrough and the way the stood up to The Sun. They stood up for what they felt was right on both sides and have had two successful clubs albeit one far more than the other.

 

Like them or loathe them you have to somewhat respect Liverpool.

 

Now though, this current lot...they're nothing like that. They berated TAA for having the audacity to say he'd like to try and achieve similar/same to what he had there, somewhere else. Then went on to defend Isak in that all too well-known debacle from the summer, acting like they'd never done owt wrong.

 

They've attempted to be devious and instead have been found to simply be greedy and have opted for large scale change at the club in a time when stability was most likely needed for all those lads. You can throw the money out the window (although I know it helps) because irrespective of how fortunate or rich they are their mate just tragically passed away in the summer and it's someone who they'd likely see as much of as their own families.

 

I'm not making excuses for them, but this is when you need your leaders. Slot appears to be dwindling in the face of adversity and frankly that whole summer was catastrophic for them almost. Whether it be trying to reinvent, reignite or revolutionise it has had pretty much the entirely opposite effect.

 

Toys out the pram for Salah who thinks he is beyond performing to maintain his place. Isak - not performing and seemingly not fit after his toys were thrown out the pram. The other young talented lads with no experience or leaders guiding them on how to act professionally.

 

Ironic really, given that Howe has created the direct opposite (albeit in less tragic circumstances).

 

Liverpool are absolutely void of that spirit that has defined them for almost half a century at present. It'll not last and they'll be back, but whilst Isak remains at the centre of this controversy directly or indirectly, I will watch on with a wry smile thinking - yeah...you've got exactly what you deserved.

 

 

 

Plus they have two powerful voices and exceptional players in Salah and Van Dijk who look over the hill or at least past their best, at 33 and 34,  and are not taking it well. They have lost a key player TAA and have brought in three extremely expensive forwards, at least a couple of whom have questionable personalities. 

[Optimistic Nut]

36 minutes ago, duo said:

Salah has basically fallen into Slot's trap - notice all news is about Salah now and not how poor Slot has been.

 

Saying that though, look how it worked out when another Dutch manager took on a club legend. 

[PauloGeordio]

1 hour ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Yeah his unraveling comments are a far cry from the composed, measured Slot of last season. Since it’s gone tits up he’s completely lost all that never mind throwing in loads of petty jibes and commments. I quite liked him initially but the petty comments stuff about nufc and the tedious comments about other teams tactics playing long ball etc (Man U at home) I just think “oh fuck off mate”. You’ve spent a barrel load of cash, it’s going tits up and you don’t look like you know what to do about it. 

 

 

 

That's it 

[madras]

1 hour ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Yeah his unraveling comments are a far cry from the composed, measured Slot of last season. Since it’s gone tits up he’s completely lost all that never mind throwing in loads of petty jibes and commments. I quite liked him initially but the petty comments stuff about nufc and the tedious comments about other teams tactics playing long ball etc (Man U at home) I just think “oh fuck off mate”. You’ve spent a barrel load of cash, it’s going tits up and you don’t look like you know what to do about it. 

 

 

 

Many did predict that would happen.

[Robster]

Anyone able to give me some reassurance that Xabi Alonso will be ok to average at best.
I'm convincing myself he'll be their manager very soon and it's winding me up already 

[SteV]

1 minute ago, Robster said:

Anyone able to give me some reassurance that Xabi Alonso will be ok to average at best.
I'm convincing myself he'll be their manager very soon and it's winding me up already 

[Lucky]

Just now, Robster said:

Anyone able to give me some reassurance that Xabi Alonso will be ok to average at best.
I'm convincing myself he'll be their manager very soon and it's winding me up already 

Depends entirely on how traumatised he’ll be after this current stint.

 

The big Spanish clubs are ruthless when it comes to giving managers time.

[OpenC]

I'm working on the basis that if he can't do it at Real he probably can't do it at Liverpool either.

 

Unbalanced squad, dressing room full of primadonnas and drama, presumably PSR issues to come down the line.  Not sure that many established and high quality managers would be that interested, certainly can't imagine that Klopp would want to involve himself.  Sounds like a job for Sam Allardyce to me

[Doctor Zaius]

Think its a culmination of things for Liverpool. Having to change the system to accommodate an underperforming Wirtz, has made them so much more fragile. Replacing TAA and Robertson with Kerkez and Frimpong hasnt worked. They're having to go with Connor Bradley who isnt good enough or sometimes Szoboszlai at right back. Kerkez has been awful too. Van Djik is a year older and it looks like age might have caught up with Salah (though he'll struggle without TAA). Isak hasnt worked thus far. 

 

Theres quite a few problems there, some of Slots doing some of the clubs. Its been pretty much plain sailing for him everywhere else before, so fuck knows whether he'll turn it around.

 

 

 

[The College Dropout]

12 minutes ago, OpenC said:

I'm working on the basis that if he can't do it at Real he probably can't do it at Liverpool either.

 

Unbalanced squad, dressing room full of primadonnas and drama, presumably PSR issues to come down the line.  Not sure that many established and high quality managers would be that interested, certainly can't imagine that Klopp would want to involve himself.  Sounds like a job for Sam Allardyce to me

No PSR issues for Liverpool man. 
 

Xabi has been worse at Madrid than I ever could’ve imagined.  But he doesn’t have the same level of ego to deal with.  
 

Alonso has no aura at Real.  No authority.  A big name, successful player and coach at Real but it hadn’t translated. 
 

Liverpool is different and the flush squads tend to be more deferential  to the coach.  

[OpenC]

Spending like half a billion, largely on what looks like dross, must be going to impact them in some way when it comes to potential for clearing out and starting again.  Would be amazed if it didn't even cross the mind of anybody who's potentially going there, seeing how lightweight and ponderous they currently look

 

 

Edited December 9, 2025 by OpenC

[The College Dropout]

I think all the players they’ve signed are good players. No disrespect but it’s not like when they signed Andy Carroll. 
 

But as a mix - it’s not ideal at all.  Some might not suit the division. 
 

The only one I genuinely think might not be a good player is Kerkez. 

[gdm]

9 minutes ago, OpenC said:

Spending like half a billion, largely on what looks like dross, must be going to impact them in some way when it comes to potential for clearing out and starting again.  Would be amazed if it didn't even cross the mind of anybody who's potentially going there, seeing how lightweight and ponderous they currently look

 

 

 

It’s not dross tho. They’ve bought very good players they just need to find a way of gelling and making it work. Calling Isak, Wirtz, kerkez and Ekitike dross is absolutely mental  they’ll either get it to work or recoup a large part of what they spent anyway. It’s also why these ‘big 6’ clubs rarely fail. If players don’t work out they never fail to move them on. See Darwin Nunez 

[Cf]

11 minutes ago, gdm said:

It’s not dross tho. They’ve bought very good players they just need to find a way of gelling and making it work. Calling Isak, Wirtz, kerkez and Ekitike dross is absolutely mental  they’ll either get it to work or recoup a large part of what they spent anyway. It’s also why these ‘big 6’ clubs rarely fail. If players don’t work out they never fail to move them on. See Darwin Nunez 

 

They ain't moving Isak on in a hurry with the wages he's on.

[HawK]

The fee they received for Luis Diaz is looking less crazy by the minute, having a great season at Bayern and they're missing him massively imo.

[OpenC]

Yeah, it's dross as a collective is what I meant, they're obviously individually talented players.  I'm not convinced that all of their misfiring purchases will be that easy to move on for basically the same prices at short notice though.  We'll see I suppose, I just can't imagine the situation as a whole being particularly attractive to managers at the minute despite the pedigree of the club, either as a sell and rebuild project or as a trying to make what they've got work project.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2025 by OpenC

[Cf]

 

I know where my vote is going. 

[gdm]

35 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

They ain't moving Isak on in a hurry with the wages he's on.

No, but a change of manager and change of system and they won’t need to 

[Ronson333]

 

[The College Dropout]

20 minutes ago, OpenC said:

Yeah, it's dross as a collective is what I meant, they're obviously individually talented players.  I'm not convinced that all of their misfiring purchases will be that easy to move on for basically the same prices at short notice though.  We'll see I suppose, I just can't imagine the situation as a whole being particularly attractive to managers at the minute despite the pedigree of the club, either as a sell and rebuild project or as a trying to make what they've got work project.

 

 

 

I would expect a good manager to get a tune out of at least one of Wirtz, Isak, Frimpong and Kerkez. Etikite is doing well.

 

I don't think it's massive job to do better than Slot. Slot has lost the dressing room.