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8 minutes ago, Emotic said:

If he were professional and reasonable, he could've left this summer and we'd have been ok. All he's done was to antagonise the fans, the squad, the manager, and more importantly the people who hold his contract.

Nah. Was always a year too early this summer. I get what you mean but would’ve felt a bit cold going when having the UCL to look forward to.

 

You are right he’s made a right mess of things for absolutely no gain it seems.

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15 minutes ago, Andy said:

Personally don't buy the "badly led by his agent" narrative like. It absolves him of his own actions; he's a 25 year old bloke and he's been around the game long enough to know fine well what he was doing and what the consequences would be. 

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He's a fucking cunt of a bloke. When he does go I hope he snaps a leg in training 

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3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Nah. Was always a year too early this summer. I get what you mean but would’ve felt a bit cold going when having the UCL to look forward to.

 

You are right he’s made a right mess of things for absolutely no gain it seems.

 

 

Agree. Pretty sure the aim would have been to bring in a Wilson replacement to bolster Isak up front so we could have a really good crack in a CL season with a few other key areas strengthened. 

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1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

Agree. Pretty sure the aim would have been to bring in a Wilson replacement to bolster Isak up front so we could have a really good crack in a CL season with a few other key areas strengthened. 


Yep. A really high calibre one to then make the transition to replace Isak in 12 months like Pedro/Ekitike with the benefit of being bedded into the system.

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22 minutes ago, Andy said:

Personally don't buy the "badly led by his agent" narrative like. It absolves him of his own actions; he's a 25 year old bloke and he's been around the game long enough to know fine well what he was doing and what the consequences would be. 


He does still have the end say and can tell agent to F off, but if he’s agent is telling him to not take the new deal and release clause for 2026, that is 100% being badly advised by his agent.

 

As if Liverpool don’t come back in, he’s fucked it. Accepting early on and his agent going “Take this new deal, it’s a great release clause which we can get activated by Liverpool next summer because they would’ve paid that this summer” is the advise he should’ve been giving.

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7 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


He does still have the end say and can tell agent to F off, but if he’s agent is telling him to not take the new deal and release clause for 2026, that is 100% being badly advised by his agent.

 

As if Liverpool don’t come back in, he’s fucked it. Accepting early on and his agent going “Take this new deal, it’s a great release clause which we can get activated by Liverpool next summer because they would’ve paid that this summer” is the advise he should’ve been giving.

I have no idea why this course of action wasn't taken, pay raise and release clause at 150M

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Something seemingly happened in June. He went from saying in March/April that he loves the city and club to now wanting nothing to do with us. Totally get him wanting to go but it's a hell of a shift to do it this way.

 

Bruno also referenced that he's going through some tough things in that bleary-eyed interview off the plane to Singapore.

 

I did wonder if he has some underlying fitness issues that might be worse than he thought, but then he'd surely not pass a medical.

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Was just thinking about this though. Definitely it’s in the way Liverpools derisory bid was rejected that has spurred on this social media assault and narrative about “Newcastle opening the door before LFC bid again”. Must have been that firm of a rebuttal that it’s been communicated back to Isaks agent/LFC and they’ve thrown the biggest of shit fits and pressed all the social media buttons on their tantrum panel at once.

 

And for all the remonstrations and noise and bullshit it doesn’t seem to have changed a fucking thing. It remains an unassailable fact that the ball is firmly in our court both in terms of the amount of time still on his contract and the clubs financial position. 
 

My take is that he swallows his pride and comes back with his tail between his legs sometime mid September.

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It's straightforward. If Liverpool don't make a bid of 130 to 150m, Eddie can just say soz mate but there's been no serious bid, what do you want me to do? They don't value you as high as we do. 

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Liverpool have been having flirty banter behind the scenes getting Isak all excited for months.

 

When it come down to it they couldn't live up their promises and have made him look a tit in front of everyone.

 

If they really wanted him they would have got him at the start of the window like all their other deals.

 

 

 

 

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There’s no reason for them to spunk 150m on him and then sit Ekiteke on the bench. That will fuck up the entire harmony they are building there now, particularly after today. 

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5 minutes ago, Kanj said:

There’s no reason for them to spunk 150m on him and then sit Ekiteke on the bench. That will fuck up the entire harmony they are building there now, particularly after today. 


They need another striker after selling Nunez, so I suppose if they agree Isak at £150m isn’t value, who do they go for next or roll dice and go with just Etitike if they want Isak next summer? 
 

Sounds like they won’t get a LW, because they rate Nguhoma (and likely had to provide guarantees when getting him as a kid that his pathway wouldn’t be blocked), so needs to be a striker. 

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2 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


They need another striker after selling Nunez, so I suppose if they agree Isak at £150m isn’t value, who do they go for next or roll dice and go with just Etitike if they want Isak next summer? 
 

Sounds like they won’t get a LW, because they rate Nguhoma (and likely had to provide guarantees when getting him as a kid that his pathway wouldn’t be blocked), so needs to be a striker. 

I suppose their predicament is fitting two world-class (apparently) strikers into their team. One of whom cost 65 million and the other will cost north of 120. Can they do just as well with someone costing 60-70 million instead? If it were just about having strikers in a solid squad, and not about weakening a potential rival at the same time, the latter choice would be the most logical.

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48 minutes ago, Kanj said:

There’s no reason for them to spunk 150m on him and then sit Ekiteke on the bench. That will fuck up the entire harmony they are building there now, particularly after today. 

 

 

They would probably look to rotate the pair of them like we would have if we had succeeded with our bid for Ekitike. But you are right, I don't think they want to spend that much on both players, part of the reason why I think there might be some truth they would look to hijack the Wissa move as a cheaper alternative strike force. Isak might end up being left high and dry for another year at least. 

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The whole thing stinks of terrible self serving advise from his agent. Clearly assumed that there was no way we wouldnt accept bid liverpool were assuring was coming, didn't anticipate Liverpool low balling it, whom had assumed they were in a strong enough position to do so. Liverpool may be sweet talking him all the time but they will do that to a lot of players and they naively assumed that they would meet our valuation. 

 

Now I suspect Liverpool will bid again, they will be counting on it being our last chance to get over £120m for him. They may have also assumed we would be able to sign a replacement making the whole thing easier, not counting on our total lack of competence in bringing players in and that we are apparently as appealing as a radioactive colonoscopy to incoming players.

 

A responsible agent would have advised that with 3 years left on deal there is no guarantee of a sale and instead milk us with a contract with release clause for a larger salary. This has still been mentioned as a way out, except how are we supposed to reward him for imploding our summer preparation for a champions league campaign by giving him a payrise? What message does that give to the rest of the squad who must hate his guts at this point.

 

I suspect if Liverpool come close to our evaluation in the next week we will sell and make a big deal about how reluctant we are to do so. I think this would be foolish and would weaken our position in future but I suspect Howe would rather it was all just behind us. The best thing would be sale to Barca or someone next season, and if Isak wants to play to prove to the rest of the football world he's the slightest bit a professional he needs to fire his agent publically and apologize to his team mates. 

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