pubteam Posted Sunday at 17:25 Share Posted Sunday at 17:25 2 minutes ago, Likelylad said: Are Arsenal one of the biggest clubs in the world? Certainly not in the same bracket as Barca, Real, Bayern, Man U & Liverpool. For finishing second in the premier league, are they fuck. Sky really dredging the barrel with their panel as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted Sunday at 17:27 Share Posted Sunday at 17:27 (edited) They're certainly not in the same bracket as Man Utd, Liverpool, Barca, Madrid etc. They think they are though. Arteta has spend a near billion on them. Edited Sunday at 17:30 by JUICE690 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted Sunday at 17:34 Share Posted Sunday at 17:34 They’re just setting themselves up for more self-inflicted misery. Come September Isak won’t be playing for Arsenal, then what are they going to say about it? They’re going to act like they’re being hard done to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted Sunday at 17:42 Share Posted Sunday at 17:42 Arsenal is a sideways move at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted Sunday at 17:48 Share Posted Sunday at 17:48 Right, so... since the takeover, which of these 'big' clubs have come and taken our best players off us? 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Sunday at 17:55 Share Posted Sunday at 17:55 Let’s go after Saka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted Sunday at 18:14 Share Posted Sunday at 18:14 22 minutes ago, Elric said: Right, so... since the takeover, which of these 'big' clubs have come and taken our best players off us? 🤔 Especially with the clubs he mentioned Man Utd - Owen was a free transfer, Dubravka was a loan. Must be on about Andy Cole in 1995? Real Madrid - Woodgate in 2003? Man City - Given in 2009? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted Sunday at 18:36 Share Posted Sunday at 18:36 Arsenal fans have an inflated opinion about the size of their club. In the PL era their best players (Henry, Bergkamp, Viera) were rescued from the bench/sub-par stints in Serie A. When have Arsenal ever went out and bought the best in class (or very close) striker or midfielder? They don’t have that pull. Isak is a pipe dream and something they would discount if they actually thought about it for 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted Sunday at 18:41 Share Posted Sunday at 18:41 25 minutes ago, Eveready said: Especially with the clubs he mentioned Man Utd - Owen was a free transfer, Dubravka was a loan. Must be on about Andy Cole in 1995? Real Madrid - Woodgate in 2003? Man City - Given in 2009? Sadly, other than Shearer, a lot of the issue was that we didn’t have the players as opposed to Ashley holding out. See Carroll, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Sunday at 18:45 Share Posted Sunday at 18:45 Arsenal were a couple of years away from ending up like Man Utd/Spurs are now. They got lucky with Arteta when they did but that seems to be spiralling downwards now. No one in world football can afford Isak at £150M aside from 3 clubs (Man City, Real Madrid and PSG). Two of those clubs already have a main striker and the other is moving away from the crazy money spending currently. Bayern have never historically spent insane amounts on players (£80M highest fee paid) which I why I didn't mention them even though they could afford Isak, they have Kane for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted Sunday at 18:49 Share Posted Sunday at 18:49 2 minutes ago, Mazzy said: Arsenal were a couple of years away from ending up like Man Utd/Spurs are now. They got lucky with Arteta when they did but that seems to be spiralling downwards now. No one in world football can afford Isak at £150M aside from 3 clubs (Man City, Real Madrid and PSG). Two of those clubs already have a main striker and the other is moving away from the crazy money spending currently. Bayern have never historically spent insane amounts on players (£80M highest fee paid) which I why I didn't mention them even though they could afford Isak, they have Kane for now. Bayern can buy him when he's 31 for £100m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 18:49 Share Posted Sunday at 18:49 10 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Arsenal fans have an inflated opinion about the size of their club. In the PL era their best players (Henry, Bergkamp, Viera) were rescued from the bench/sub-par stints in Serie A. When have Arsenal ever went out and bought the best in class (or very close) striker or midfielder? They don’t have that pull. Isak is a pipe dream and something they would discount if they actually thought about it for 5 minutes. If anything we’ve shown more ambition in our signings than them Tonali. Isak, Bruno. Ben Arfa. Shearer, Kluivert. Theirs are mostly promising talents, have to think back to Ozil when they bought peak talent for top money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted Sunday at 18:51 Share Posted Sunday at 18:51 1 hour ago, Likelylad said: Are Arsenal one of the biggest clubs in the world? Certainly not in the same bracket as Barca, Real, Bayern, Man U & Liverpool. In fairness, they are in the same bracket as Man U and Liverpool like. But then again, we are not that far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted Sunday at 21:26 Share Posted Sunday at 21:26 2 hours ago, kingxlnc said: If anything we’ve shown more ambition in our signings than them Tonali. Isak, Bruno. Ben Arfa. Shearer, Kluivert. Theirs are mostly promising talents, have to think back to Ozil when they bought peak talent for top money Even Ozil was surplus to requirements at Real, just like Odegaard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Sunday at 21:31 Share Posted Sunday at 21:31 2 hours ago, Unbelievable said: In fairness, they are in the same bracket as Man U and Liverpool like. But then again, we are not that far off. Arsenal are nowhere near those two in terms of worldwide standing like. Miles off them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 22:02 Share Posted Sunday at 22:02 30 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Even Ozil was surplus to requirements at Real, just like Odegaard. Yes true Rice was obviously a big baller move, but it was a mid-table club so a natural upgrade. Sol Campbell at the time - but Spurs were also mid at the time. Bergkamp was out of favour at Inter Henry had flopped at Juve Vieira had flopped at Milan Overmars was a big name though Rosicky was also fairly big Aubemeyang and Alexis were good players but never one of the top 10 strikers in the world at their peaks Interesting how big they think they are. Wenger was a genius tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted yesterday at 09:30 Share Posted yesterday at 09:30 Drove into work today and it's only a short drive so put the radio on and literally the first thing I hear is Piers Morgan talking about breaking the bank and go get Isak The self entitlement and delusion is off the scale with Arsenal fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted yesterday at 09:37 Share Posted yesterday at 09:37 Arsenal have spent so much money on players they don’t actually need. Merino, Havertz, Calafiori…even Rice. Then you have Sterling, Jorginho etc. Their forward play relies entirely on Saka. Martinelli has turned absolutely wank. I think they missed their window for winning something and didn’t build on those foundations with the right buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 09:44 Share Posted yesterday at 09:44 5 minutes ago, AJ9 said: Arsenal have spent so much money on players they don’t actually need. Merino, Havertz, Calafiori…even Rice. Then you have Sterling, Jorginho etc. Their forward play relies entirely on Saka. Martinelli has turned absolutely wank. I think they missed their window for winning something and didn’t build on those foundations with the right buys. They shipped out Smith Rowe and Nketiah good good money. They could probably do it ffp wise but it would leave them penniless. Also fan wanking aside we've got no idea if anyone inside Arsenal actually would be willing to take it that far for him. Cheaper option exists for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 09:54 Share Posted yesterday at 09:54 The main thing we have to focus on right now is increasing our allowance for higher wages for our better players. The only reason the likes of Isak would consider leaving is due to the financial package on offer elsewhere. All these older guys in the media that think players are going to move purely due to the 'bigger club' moniker are stuck in the past. In reality no club outside of Man City has won anything consistently for a while now, and you are not guaranteed winning anywhere else other than them. And they are even having a wobble of their own right now. Regarding Arsenal specifically, his current Newcastle team have beaten them twice already this season, and it's looking like they will be out of the two domestic cups. His current team also plays a style that allows him to thrive while Arsenal are currently being ridiculed for their slow, tedious play going forward. Isak is the lead man in a team on the rise that is competing for a Champions League place with Arsenal, and is still in both domestic cups. A team that is on a run of 8 wins straight. So what exactly is he looking at gaining at Arsenal, if we are able to give him a competitive wage increase at the end of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 09:59 Share Posted yesterday at 09:59 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: They shipped out Smith Rowe and Nketiah good good money. They could probably do it ffp wise but it would leave them penniless. Also fan wanking aside we've got no idea if anyone inside Arsenal actually would be willing to take it that far for him. Cheaper option exists for them. Even with the FFP/PSR wiggle room they have, they don't have the type of owners that will spend big continuously. I Do not see their owners backing a move to spend £150 million odd on a player. The Rice move was more of a one off from them rather than something they'll be getting into the habit of doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 09:59 Share Posted yesterday at 09:59 Just now, KaKa said: Even with the FFP/PSR wiggle room they have, they don't have the type of owners that will spend big continuously. I Do not see their owners backing a move to spend £150 million odd on a player. The Rice move was more of a one off from them rather than something they'll be getting into the habit of doing. This remains to be seen. We don't know the extent of the ambition the owners have. Ignore the noise coming from the weirdo arsenal fans. They've invested big and consistently for awhile now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 10:21 Share Posted yesterday at 10:21 14 minutes ago, r0cafella said: This remains to be seen. We don't know the extent of the ambition the owners have. Ignore the noise coming from the weirdo arsenal fans. They've invested big and consistently for awhile now. Yeah, I think they will continue to invest. I just don't see them bank rolling a move for one player that costs £150 million. But we'll see I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted yesterday at 10:23 Share Posted yesterday at 10:23 16 hours ago, Elric said: Right, so... since the takeover, which of these 'big' clubs have come and taken our best players off us? 🤔 Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted yesterday at 10:25 Share Posted yesterday at 10:25 16 hours ago, Ronson333 said: Let’s go after Saka Aye kick on, win the cup, finish above them and then finish them by taking saka off them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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