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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

It was so funny man.

 

They weren't even excited about him signing at the time.

 

Certainly not from what I remember, and now, just so desperate.

 

I take immeasurable joy in reminding all the ones I know, of how they were turning their noses up at the time, every time he scores.

He's exactly the type of signing I liked us making, same as Trippier, Bruno, Botman. Anyone could have signed them, it's not as if we swooped in and blew everyone else's bids out of the water and put them on £300k/week. We scouted, we took a punt when others decided against, it paid off.

 

Thanks to PSR we can't even do that now...

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6 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

He's exactly the type of signing I liked us making, same as Trippier, Bruno, Botman. Anyone could have signed them, it's not as if we swooped in and blew everyone else's bids out of the water and put them on £300k/week. We scouted, we took a punt when others decided against, it paid off.

 

Thanks to PSR we can't even do that now...

 

Yeah, I agree. That's the whole point of good scouting! At some point you have to trust that work, but so many of the 'bigger clubs' are so fearful.

 

Funnily enough Arsenal and Arteta opted for Jesus instead, because he was a known player in the league that Arteta had some familiarity with from Man City. They played it safe.

 

Regarding PSR, we will be fine. The few years after the takeover we spent a fair bit without any sales and with very low revenue overall. PSR is on a rolling three years, and so those early years are now dropping off the calculations, and our revenue has since improved.

 

Part of Mitchell coming in, was to get back to identifying quality gems for good value, and so we'll be getting back to that. Between Mitchell, Nickson and Howe it's going to work out really well IMO.

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39 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

It was so funny man.

 

They weren't even excited about him signing at the time.

 

Certainly not from what I remember, and now, just so desperate.

 

I take immeasurable joy in reminding all the ones I know, of how they were turning their noses up at the time, every time he scores.

Of course they were excited. The car plate going viral is evidence.  He was only midway through that bad season so the hype was high.  

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24 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, I agree. That's the whole point of good scouting! At some point you have to trust that work, but so many of the 'bigger clubs' are so fearful.

 

Funnily enough Arsenal and Arteta opted for Jesus instead, because he was a known player in the league that Arteta had some familiarity with from Man City. They played it safe.

 

Regarding PSR, we will be fine. The few years after the takeover we spent a fair bit without any sales and with very low revenue overall. PSR is on a rolling three years, and so those early years are now dropping off the calculations, and our revenue has since improved.

 

Part of Mitchell coming in, was to get back to identifying quality gems for good value, and so we'll be getting back to that. Between Mitchell, Nickson and Howe it's going to work out really well IMO.

That’s not how PSR works. 
 

The costs are so high  we run a decent PSR loss every year. Revenues haven’t increased with the costs.  
 

We won’t have to sell to he compliant.  But our revenue and current PSR position means we can’t spend 50-100m net without sales.  

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Of course they were excited. The car plate going viral is evidence.  He was only midway through that bad season so the hype was high.  

 

They were sceptical of the signing man and were going on about his goal record. His one good year in Spain was sandwiched between two single digit league seasons. 

 

I am surrounded by them lot and heard it all first hand over and over again. I had just seen him in the Euros for Sweden and thought he'd be great for them, and they were telling me otherwise.

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That’s not how PSR works. 
 

The costs are so high  we run a decent PSR loss every year. Revenues haven’t increased with the costs.  
 

We won’t have to sell to he compliant.  But our revenue and current PSR position means we can’t spend 50-100m net without sales.  

 

The years we had the biggest losses will be dropping off the 3 year calculations, which will help alleviate things. Pretty sure that's how it works.

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10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That’s not how PSR works. 
 

The costs are so high  we run a decent PSR loss every year. Revenues haven’t increased with the costs.  
 

We won’t have to sell to he compliant.  But our revenue and current PSR position means we can’t spend 50-100m net without sales.  

 

But that isn't static, our amortisation costs fall by around by around £20m every year, which is equivalent to £100m in transfer fees.

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1 hour ago, hakka said:

Even Isak's penalty types are varied in placement and run up style. He must be a nightmare to predict.

 

 

 

 

 

That penalty pretty much summed up his executioner mindset. Ice cold.

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7 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

That’s not how PSR works. 
 

The costs are so high  we run a decent PSR loss every year. Revenues haven’t increased with the costs.  
 

We won’t have to sell to he compliant.  But our revenue and current PSR position means we can’t spend 50-100m net without sales.  

 

Disclaimer on costs continuing after the first year but we could service £100m of purchases on £20m sale profit.

 

The key for this summer is CL, we had a bump last season on revenue for it which was then replaced with the Adidas deal this year so getting I'm again will be a good bump up again.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a break in the Sela deal after next year. We would be well placed to justify a further jump from the £25m deal with 2 cl campaigns under the belt and having one of the most high profile players on the world wearing the number 9.

 

Fuck it, pay to break the deal this summer and go all out with a new partner or increased Sela fee for next year 

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2 hours ago, relámpago blanco said:

It was the control for his second that was outrageous. I think it went unnoticed. There was a fair amount of pace on the ball and he just controlled it so well.

 

It was perfect 👌🏼 - the relationship between Murphy and Isak is fascinating.

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2 hours ago, relámpago blanco said:

It was the control for his second that was outrageous. I think it went unnoticed. There was a fair amount of pace on the ball and he just controlled it so well.

Absolute perfection 

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16 hours ago, relámpago blanco said:

It was the control for his second that was outrageous. I think it went unnoticed. There was a fair amount of pace on the ball and he just controlled it so well.


The finish was easy, it was the control that was the world class element. 

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23 hours ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that isn't static, our amortisation costs fall by around by around £20m every year, which is equivalent to £100m in transfer fees.

Our amortisation costs don’t change by a penny unless a player is released, sold or signs a new contract

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44 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


The finish was easy, it was the control that was the world class element. 

 

 

He makes those finishes look easy tbf. A bit like he made the penalty look easy.

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23 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

They were sceptical of the signing man and were going on about his goal record. His one good year in Spain was sandwiched between two single digit league seasons. 

 

I am surrounded by them lot and heard it all first hand over and over again. I had just seen him in the Euros for Sweden and thought he'd be great for them, and they were telling me otherwise.

I disagree man. Those times they had Lacazette upfront. We must know a whole different type of Arsenal fan.

 

23 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

The years we had the biggest losses will be dropping off the 3 year calculations, which will help alleviate things. Pretty sure that's how it works.

And they will be replaced by years when our amortisation and squad costs are so high vs revenue that we can't spend significant amounts of money without sales.

 

The proof is literally in the pudding [emoji38] our recent transfer record and the comments from Howe and that players agents.

23 hours ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that isn't static, our amortisation costs fall by around by around £20m every year, which is equivalent to £100m in transfer fees.

No it doesn't. Amortisation only drops with sales and contract extensions (and releases).

 

Typically speaking - if your squad is improving and you are renewing your best players AND buying more players, your amortisation and wages costs will only increase. 

16 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Disclaimer on costs continuing after the first year but we could service £100m of purchases on £20m sale profit.

 

The key for this summer is CL, we had a bump last season on revenue for it which was then replaced with the Adidas deal this year so getting I'm again will be a good bump up again.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a break in the Sela deal after next year. We would be well placed to justify a further jump from the £25m deal with 2 cl campaigns under the belt and having one of the most high profile players on the world wearing the number 9.

 

Fuck it, pay to break the deal this summer and go all out with a new partner or increased Sela fee for next year 

The new CL format is more lucrative, I think the minimum a club like ours would make has risen but I'm not sure what the figure is. All-in it must be closer to £40m as from memory we made about £30m the last time.

 

But the new CL format is a killer for the PL for us and Howe's style. It's a nice one-off bump. But what we need is guaranteed recurring revenue. A productive academy/player sales, commercial deals and a stadium. 

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28 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Our amortisation costs don’t change by a penny unless a player is released, sold or signs a new contract

 

Technically, but in reality players are on fixed term contracts, so there will allways be contracts expiring and being renewed or the players released. So, as I said, it is not static.

 

The latest accounts actually include a projection of amortisation costs over 5 years and they fall by £18m and £22m respectively over the next two years.

 

(I realise the actual fall might me more of less than that depending on timing and length of new contracts, sales and purchases)

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I feel like the chances he misses are because he's usually trying to do something different when he's through on goal. Whether that's to keep goalkeepers guessing all the time or just because he likes the challenge it's hard to know, probably both. He's actually exceptionally good at using his first touch to move the ball into the perfect position for the finish.  He scored at the gallowgate in open play the other week and sent the keeper the wrong way, there was no need for him to do this at all. 

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55 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I disagree man. Those times they had Lacazette upfront. We must know a whole different type of Arsenal fan.

 

When that whole license plate thing occured it was mid season.

 

Isak had scored 4 goals in 17 matches so far. They were not excited about signing him and were talking about his previous good season being a possible anomaly.

 

The guy they were excited about was Vlahovic who they were also being strongly linked with at the time, and who was going crazy at Fiorentina, scoring a bunch of goals.

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