KaKa Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiresias said: There is something to that, and definitely clubs like Brentford and Brighton are able to compete better because of smart signings and being more on a level playing field sports science wise, but, and I am going to get flack for suggesting that, Klopp was kinda right there are ceilings for these clubs because they will always lose players to the rich clubs. (Still the fucking gall of Klopp pleading poverty so much, still fucking annoys me, but he's not wrong imo. I think the quality of the midtable probably is higher than ever. and I can see the odd title upset (which arsenal winning would arguably be, but also more extreme ways like Lecesiter, but, I can't see Man City, or a club similarly funded like us soon, not dominating 4 seasons out of 5 still for the foreseeable. So this is the thing that was a big headache before, but now with so much more scouting and recruitment capabilities for even the smaller clubs, these sales potentially make teams more dangerous, if they have their houses in order. Lets look at Brighton as an example, who are a relatively smaller club with an excellent structure in place. They have just sold Cucurella this past summer for £60 million after buying him for just £15 million a year prior. They also ended up getting £20 million off Chelsea for their manager. That's almost a £100 million they have in place now to work with. The new manager that has come in looks like he knows what he is doing and the left back that has come in to replace Cucurella, Pervis Estupinan, seems to have been a sound purchase for a comparatively much lower fee. There really doesn't seem to have been much of a drop off from where they were before, but now they have a ton more money in play to continue to build all areas of the club including the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I see that, there are more clubs who ought to be able to give better games and yet in the last 5 seasons 4 teams (Man City and Liverpool) have won the league with over 90 points 5 seasons before that only 1 did, (Chelsea) 5 seasons before that only 1 did again (Man U) 5 seasons before that 3 did (Chelsea and Arsenal) And in the first 10 years of the premier league only 2 teams (both Man U) got over 90 points. That to me says that by and large Man City are winning games easier than previous champions won games in general. over 90 points is more common does not suggest that more of the games are tougher... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) It's been the case since Guardiola has been at Man City, him coming into this league was a watershed moment for English football imo; the season before he was here Leicester won the title with 81 points and from that season up to now every champion has accrued over 90 points (with the exception of the behind closed doors season of 2020-21 where 86 points won it). Pre-Guardiola I don't remember the big 6, certainly the top 2/3 teams cantering to wins as much or as emphatically as often as they do now, PL clubs have done quite well in the Champions League post-2016, England have performed well in the last 3 tournaments as opposed to what happened in the 25 years between 1991-2016 and the PFM has mostly died a death at top level football. Still to be convinced it's just a coincidence that this has all happened since Guardiola has been at Man City, whether that changes after he goes (and Klopp for that matter) remains to be seen. Edited January 3, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Brighton winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Fulham winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Brighton doing well, this Mitoma looks a great player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Brighton 2-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Lampard must be on the ropes on one leg by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3-0 Brighton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 He's gone tomorrow surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Sacked in the morning… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Gutted that's the end of Lampard. Just needed a few more games to be a total disaster, with no chance of rescuing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Maybe, just maybe, they'll start to realise Gerrard and Lampard are completely living off their player reputations and have done nothing to truly improve themselves in the world of management. They're the new Steve Bruces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dokko said: Gutted that's the end of Lampard. Just needed a few more games to be a total disaster, with no chance of rescuing. It will cost them a fortune to sack him, didn't he bring all his coaching mates with him?, it will cost them any budget they had for January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Fat Wank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just read mitrovic being carded tonight means he's suspended for the League game up here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Froggy said: Big games tonight. All going well we will be 1 point clear of you with a game in hand. Unlucky Frog face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Darts was good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Unlucky Frog face I'm happy enough with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, jack j said: Just read mitrovic being carded tonight means he's suspended for the League game up here.. I read he misses the Chelsea game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, 1964 said: I read he misses the Chelsea game Aye yous are right. I Should know by now not to believe twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just seen the state of Brightons fourth goal Absolute shite freekick by Dwight McNeil which got the boos going followed up by shambolic back pass by Gueye . They looked like a team completely shell shocked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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