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26 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Except that he got further in the CL than wor Eddie...

Had a considerably easier run.

Reckon we might have managed Leipzig, Celtic and Club Bruges three times

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27 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Except that he got further in the CL than wor Eddie...

Format is totally different. They’ve done well but we would have easily got through this year.

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Find the Villa bitterness weird. 
 

Their potential isn’t as big as ours. Have no reason to be bitter. They’ve been fantastic in the CL.  
 

I just hope they get 0 points from the next 2 and that’s them done.  
 

No issue with them winning the FA Cup.  I want the notion of the top 6 to be broken. 

 

 

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Aye taking nowt away from Villa, they had a great run and a hell of a second half performance, but they’ve definitely had it favourable with this new format. Every game you’d want at home, they had at home. Even getting Brugge was a mint draw.
 

In fairness, you can only beat what’s in front of you, but they’ve definitely had it nice. 

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Find the Villa bitterness weird. 
 

Their potential isn’t as big as ours. Have no reason to be bitter. They’ve been fantastic in the CL.  
 

I just hope they get 0 points from the next 2 and that’s them done.  
 

No issue with them winning the FA Cup.  I want the notion of the top 6 to be broken. 

 

 

 

I don't think that's true like, we're actually remarkably alike when it comes to potential, and just general size of club as well. They're remarkably well run, and seem to be willing to push the boat out financially if required.

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Villa really played well and have been brilliant the whole campaign. A really high quality match. I'm not going to judge the easiness of their fixtures/format as I could not comfortably say we could get to the a UCL quarter final. While simultaneously being in a top 4 battle.

 

We will see next season though but I hope some of these comments don't come to bite back.

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It wasn't just the format itself, but the fact that the format largely neutralises the problem of being in pot 4. Makes it much more likely to get a decent draw and much more margin for error to get through - particularly if you get the big sides at home and the easier ones away. Not to take anything away - they pretty much nailed the group stage and were able to even avoid the play-off round. However they then also benefited by Brugge pulling off probably the biggest upset of the play-off round (24th beating 9th).

 

We had a format that made a difficult draw more likely for a pot 4 side with tighter margins for error, but we also got just about the hardest draw you could ask for from the options.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

We got battered home and away by dortmond and the fixtures against an awful AC milan team. We weren't robbed we were simply not good enough. 

 

 

 

 


Why don’t you go marry Emery then 

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7 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

We got battered home and away by dortmond and the fixtures against an awful AC milan team. We weren't robbed we were simply not good enough. 

 

 

 

 

Bizarre take from a Newcastle fan. Dortmund in no way “battered us” at home, we hit the bar twice, (their social media team even thanking the crossbar for the result) and the PSG penalty is up there with the worst decisions in the competition’s history.

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10 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

We got battered home and away by dortmond and the fixtures against an awful AC milan team. We weren't robbed we were simply not good enough. 

 

 

 

 

 

Win that game away at PSG and the Milan home game would have been a very different affair. That game killed our confidence for a month or more. December onwards was awful.

 

 

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Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

Win that game away at PSG and the Milan home game would have been a very different affair. That game killed our confidence for a month or more. December+ was awful.

 

Exactly my point. It was difficult but it was possible. The comments about our group stage are acting like we were outclassed every game. There were opportunities that we just didn't do enough to take.

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43 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Find the Villa bitterness weird. 
 

Their potential isn’t as big as ours. Have no reason to be bitter. They’ve been fantastic in the CL.  
 

I just hope they get 0 points from the next 2 and that’s them done.  
 

No issue with them winning the FA Cup.  I want the notion of the top 6 to be broken. 

 

 

 

I think with all the PSR stuff, they are very much our peers, and we are neck to neck in many ways on and off pitch

 

Next few seasons are huge for the 2 of us, I hope we do better than them in the league + Europe so in theory we can increase our revenues faster than them

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36 minutes ago, 54 said:

I don't think that's true like, we're actually remarkably alike when it comes to potential, and just general size of club as well. They're remarkably well run, and seem to be willing to push the boat out financially if required.

 

Agree with this. We are very similarly matched at the moment. Both almost mirroring eachother in many ways. Similar high quality coaches that had similar relegation form convert into champions league qualification. 

We won a cup this year, they may yet win a cup etc. 

 

I do think we edge it in terms of elite players, as I believe Isak and Tonali rank better than anything they have, however I believe they have far better squad depth currently. 

 

But if the spending rules got relaxed they have plenty of cash and if not then they are willing to work around PSR pretty aggressively. 

 

I think it's pretty crucial that we finish above them and that they don't finish top 5. They are already set for a decent windfall from this year's champions league run when compared with ours I presume.

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15 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

Win that game away at PSG and the Milan home game would have been a very different affair. That game killed our confidence for a month or more. December onwards was awful.

 

 

 

It's dubravka at goal that causes our awful form (& Trippiers head loss due to the scandal aswell)

That pope injury cost us like 10 points & an UCL KO, we would beat Milan with pope at goal 

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