Erikse Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Not at all. It isn’t just that the points total is low on its own it's that it's low and that the title has been won with 5 games to go, so not only was a low points total needed to win, but there was also no competition at the top either. There might be good competition from 3rd to 10th but from 1st to 3rd there's none and I don't think the team that won are that good either. Pretty sure this is the earliest a club has won the PL this century. The high points seasons here had Liverpool and Man City vying it out and with other teams in the mix too. Even then I think you only need to watch the football itself, it's miles off it and it's not just limited to English teams, the standard of football has dropped this season imo. In 20/21 Man City won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard. About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses than 22/23, despite ending up on the same total points. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell. Edited 3 hours ago by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Don’t care about Liverpool really but I don’t really get the hatred some of our fans seem to have for them. I don’t think it’s really reciprocated - met plenty of Liverpool fans recently (because I live in London…) who were very nice to and about us after the cup final etc. They’ve been easily the best team, but also it’s just so boring seeing Man City win everything again. People say they’d rather City keep winning things as they’re irrelevant, but that’s hardly an exciting way to look at the league! This clearly means a lot to Liverpool who never got to celebrate in a stadium in 2020, the same day Man City are getting stick because they don’t care enough about another Wembley trip because they’re so used to it. And if you hate Liverpool fans, well let’s be honest they’re probably far worse when they don’t win things, similar to managers like Klopp, Arteta etc. I think that’s partly why Man Utd and Arsenal fans seem so dislikable on here now. Edited 8 hours ago by St. Maximin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves to be substituted in our place. 😂 Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. The list goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, andycap said: Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves to be substituted in our place. 😂 Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. The list goes on. I’ve worked with about a dozen Liverpool fans over the years, some in London and some up in Leicester and none have been like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 58 minutes ago, Erikse said: In 20/21 Man city won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of literally breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard. About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses, despite ending up at the same point total. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell. In 20/21 Man City were on for the quadruple right up until the end, losing the 2 they didn't win to another PL side (Chelsea) I take the point that, relatively, the competition wasn't there in the league, but they were still a fantastic side, this Liverpool side aren't. I've said it before but they filled a vacuum (left by Man City needing a rebuild and Arsenal being dickless) rather than set a standard. Agree about our season but I don't think any of us would look at this season and say we've been as consistently good in the league as we were in 22/23. Not a criticism either really, FFP has held us back, but for us to be as streaky as we've been and to have that bad a summer transfer window, but be 3rd is mad. Edited 8 hours ago by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Turnbull2000 said: Just been watching some of the incidents from the Copa del Rey - holy shit Jude Bellingham is a complete and utter twat. There's also him just standing there after a misplaced pass rather than trying to correct the error. It's unfortunate he'll potentially be central to the England team for several years. He's deeply unlikeable. Jude also played really well. That shouldn’t be lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago If/when the time comes, I hope our first title is like the Liverpool one this season just so it's easier on the nerves. None of this Aguero in the 94th minute, or having to come from 0-2 at HT on the last game to win 3-2 like City have had to endure. Save those for maybe the 3rd or 4th ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted 11 minutes ago Share Posted 11 minutes ago Seen a post about some Evertonian wag rebranding blue smoke flares as red and flogging them to the other half 😂 Hence.... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI9e9fLsXCj/?igsh=NXJqMWpmaWlnajN6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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