brummie Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 9 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said: I wish we got to play under this UCL system like. Yes, to be fair, it does make beating Bayern Munich much easier. *wink* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 I see someone like Morgan Rogers and what Emery has brought out of him, and I wonder how many other players are, of similar quality but we never get to see it because they're managed by Steve Bruce or Steven Gerrard or some other fucking chancer. To think Boro fans couldn't believe we gave them 14m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 2 minutes ago, brummie said: Yes, to be fair, it does make beating Bayern Munich much easier. *wink* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 21 minutes ago, brummie said: I see someone like Morgan Rogers and what Emery has brought out of him, and I wonder how many other players are, of similar quality but we never get to see it because they're managed by Steve Bruce or Steven Gerrard or some other fucking chancer. To think Boro fans couldn't believe we gave them 14m for him. Hatem Ben Arfa was as good as Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordshola Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Id be surprised if Villa can continue this form all season tbh. December is when it will catch up to them and fatigue/injuries set in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 They’ll get their annual SJP pasting on Boxing Day (hopefully) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 15 minutes ago, Andy84 said: They’ll get their annual SJP pasting on Boxing Day (hopefully) If we can find the target. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 30 minutes ago, Lordshola said: Id be surprised if Villa can continue this form all season tbh. December is when it will catch up to them and fatigue/injuries set in. They’ve got a top, top manager who will figure it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) @brummie happy to see Villa doing well and you too being all smiles on here after the dark days you lot were in, similar to us. If you were to take off your Villa tinted glasses off for a moment, do you think your form will continuue? I have no doubts about Emery's quality. But what would you see halting or disrupting the feel good and winning form from here onwards? We were decimated by injuries and morale took a knock after the CL exit last season around December. Do you have a big enough squad and more importantly, quality throughout that can sustain what you have right now? Enjoy the ride though buddy. You never know if you'd ever get the chance to live through it again another time. Edited October 23 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Villa will be fine over Christmas, their issue will be come March time and players being shagged. Form will drop off, like it did last season. Just depends where they are points wise, if it’s a position that can be ridden out. Put themselves in with a great early chance of finishing top 8 and going into the L16 rather than last 32. In which case, would be a legit chance of making UCL QFs. That money there will help them spend well next season, which is partly one reason which fucked us. We no doubt banked on having UCL 2nd half of season and it showed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Man I wish Amanda had kept her trap shut in the early days, we'd be sitting with Emery in the dugout instead of Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Stings a little that Villa are achieving what we hoped to achieve - and without the shady ownership. Think they're capable of returning to Europe next season no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 33 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Man I wish Amanda had kept her trap shut in the early days, we'd be sitting with Emery in the dugout instead of Villa. The guy we got instead has been pretty fucking good himself like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 8 hours ago, Ronaldo said: They’ve got a top, top manager who will figure it out. And they don't stand still during transfer windows either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) It does seem like Villa are miles ahead of us now , yet it was only 18 months ago we finished ahead of them in 4th. They have recruited and sold way better than we have since then and Unai is clearly an elite manager. I would rather they got top 4 than the likes of Spurs , Man United and Chelsea . Edited October 23 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Our competitive advantage over Villa would be the power to the leverage the state of KSA however that isn't allowed to be fully leveraged. Fortunately for Villa they didn't recede for 14 years under a disgraceful owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 We actually picked up more points than Villa in the second half of last season. Emery is good, obviously, but the demands placed on squads is high. I expect they'll still be challenging for a European spot at the season's end though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I'm not fussed about Villa getting Emery - I'm fussed about the fact they've done it without the SA shit stain attached to our club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 There's no guarantee Emery would have done here what he's done at Villa. I'm happy with how it's all panned out from an NUFC perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 16 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: It does seem like Villa are miles ahead of us now , yet it was only 18 months ago we finished ahead of them in 4th. They have recruited and sold way better than we have since then and Unai is clearly an elite manager. I would rather they got top 4 than the likes of Spurs , Man United and Chelsea . Villa recruitment still has some Ls. Spent a lot on LB, and still need to sign a LB. Carlos is a dud. Onana was a sure thing, but it’s big money for what could be a routine CM. Diaby they were fortunate to get money back. They’ve also signed a number of players that will have little impact. Inheriting Martinez, Konsa, McGinn and Watkins as the core who have all stepped up under Emery been the key. Our core for similar was Dubravka, Schar, Longstaff and Wilson Replacing/Improving that core in upcoming seasons will be Villas test. Like it’s easy to forget how much Villa spent in their first seasons back up, whilst we were still very tight under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 19 minutes ago, Menace said: I'm not fussed about Villa getting Emery - I'm fussed about the fact they've done it without the SA shit stain attached to our club Fussed about how they got saved from relegation by the hawkeye malfunction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 32 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: It does seem like Villa are miles ahead of us now , yet it was only 18 months ago we finished ahead of them in 4th. They have recruited and sold way better than we have since then and Unai is clearly an elite manager. I would rather they got top 4 than the likes of Spurs , Man United and Chelsea . They had the likes of Tim Irregular, Cameron Archer (who they sold twice), Aaron Ramsey & Chukwumeka from the academy who they all sold for decent sums across multiple windows. Don't forget the Grealish sale on top of that. We've sold one player for a decent profit in the last few years. It's clear how key a good academy is these days, but you can't really build it overnight. Said it a few times now, but it's great seeing us bolster the academy with supposedly decent players like Harrison, Sanusi, Hernes & Shahar. We can't really lose as long as we play our cards right. Meanwhile we stood still this summer, losing a good prospect and bringing in a decent free on top of a young talent who could go either way (not that I want us to but if we sold him now there is no way we'd get our money back) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 11 hours ago, brummie said: Yes, to be fair, it does make beating Bayern Munich much easier. *wink* It does in reality. Hardly any jeopardy in the first batch of games. You can loose a few a still qualify comfortably for the second phase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 10 hours ago, Lordshola said: Id be surprised if Villa can continue this form all season tbh. December is when it will catch up to them and fatigue/injuries set in. Fucking hope so Cant stand the bastards. And the jealousy I'm feeling towards them is knocking me sick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Just looked at our first two seasons back, and it’s a prime example of why we’re stagnant with the squad. Of the players remaining: Murphy £12m - Still here, little resale value Dubravka £4m - Useless Schar £3m - Superb, but no resale value Almiron £21m - Little resale value Compare that to Villa first two seasons back: Luiz £15m - Sold this summer for £45m plus players Konsa £12m - Big value Mings £20m - Knee injury dented value and sale chance Martinez £17m - Solid Cash £14m - Should get money back Watkins £28m - Big player Villa were more ambitious when they came back up. And now they’ve got a competent manager, they’re getting dividends as it’s a base to build on. We’re still paying the price for Ashley lean years, but come next summer, we should be in a position where we can start moving forward with a better base. Would say Villa have overtaken us, but it can and should swing next summer if we are ambitious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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