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I had this discussion yesterday. The teams from 7th-11th can literally beat anyone on their day. I can’t remember a recent season where that has been the case to the same extent. The league is very strong all the way down to lower mid-table and even Spurs / Man U are both in European semis. It’s a strong league with more dispersion of quality players and managers. 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

Nunes trying to pour booze on Muslim Mo Salah 

 

 

 

apparently it's alcohol free. 

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14 hours ago, BlueStar said:

Nunes trying to pour booze on Muslim Mo Salah 

 

 

Hopefully non alcoholic 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

Just seen Gakpo's celebration. I wonder if Alison has baptised him in his pool yet. Weirdos. 


Replace Jesus with Joe Hendry 

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Just been watching some of the incidents from the Copa del Rey - holy shit Jude Bellingham is a complete and utter twat. There's also him just standing there after a misplaced pass rather than trying to correct the error. It's unfortunate he'll potentially be central to the England team for several years. He's deeply unlikeable.

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4 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Just been watching some of the incidents from the Copa del Rey - holy shit Jude Bellingham is a complete and utter twat. There's also him just standing there after a misplaced pass rather than trying to correct the error. It's unfortunate he'll potentially be central to the England team for several years. He's deeply unlikeable.


They are a horrible club - the disrespect they showed Rodri to basically threatening the ref prior to the match then during the match 

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Bellingham is as unlikeable as they come. Can’t remember him being like that before Madrid. Him swearing on the pitch in Spanish is utter cringe. 
 

Hopefully he’ll grow out of it as he’ll be a mainstay in that England team. 

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1 hour ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Eh? Surely a team getting near 100 points is more indicative of a farmers league. The fact that there’s almost nothing in it from second to about tenth, shows how competitive the league has been this season.

 

Apart from the three promoted teams being so far off it, I think this year has shown the league to be in great health. Think back to the 90’s and early 2000’s what points totals did the champions have those years? This 100 points lark is a relatively recent phenomenon and indicative of the bulk of the league being miles off it

Not at all. It isn’t just that the points total is low on its own it's that it's low and that the title has been won with 5 games to go, so not only was a low points total needed to win, but there was also no competition at the top either. There might be good competition from 3rd to 10th but from 1st to 3rd there's none and I don't think the team that won are that good either.

 

Pretty sure this is the earliest a club has won the PL this century. 

 

The high points seasons here had Liverpool and Man City vying it out and with other teams in the mix too. 

 

Even then I think you only need to watch the football itself, it's miles off it and it's not just limited to English teams, the standard of football has dropped this season imo.

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Not at all. It isn’t just that the points total is low on its own it's that it's low and that the title has been won with 5 games to go, so not only was a low points total needed to win, but there was also no competition at the top either. There might be good competition from 3rd to 10th but from 1st to 3rd there's none and I don't think the team that won are that good either.

 

Pretty sure this is the earliest a club has won the PL this century. 

 

The high points seasons here had Liverpool and Man City vying it out and with other teams in the mix too. 

 

Even then I think you only need to watch the football itself, it's miles off it and it's not just limited to English teams, the standard of football has dropped this season imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

In 20/21 Man City won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard.

 

About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses than 22/23, despite ending up on the same total points. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell.

 

 

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Don’t care about Liverpool really but I don’t really get the hatred some of our fans seem to have for them. I don’t think it’s really reciprocated - met plenty of Liverpool fans recently (because I live in London…) who were very nice to and about us after the cup final etc. 

 

They’ve been easily the best team, but also it’s just so boring seeing Man City win everything again. People say they’d rather City keep winning things as they’re irrelevant, but that’s hardly an exciting way to look at the league! This clearly means a lot to Liverpool who never got to celebrate in a stadium in 2020, the same day Man City are getting stick because they don’t care enough about another Wembley trip because they’re so used to it. 
 

And if you hate Liverpool fans, well let’s be honest they’re probably far worse when they don’t win things, similar to managers like Klopp, Arteta etc. I think that’s partly why Man Utd and Arsenal fans seem so dislikable on here now. 

 

 

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Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. 

Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. 

When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves  to be substituted in our place. 😂 

Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. 

The list goes on. 

 

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11 minutes ago, andycap said:

Liverpool fans are an entitled bunch of arse holes well the majority of them are. 

Jealous when anyone upsets the Premier league hierachy. 

When we qualified for the champions league and they didn't they were calling for themselves  to be substituted in our place. 😂 

Hate that any team has money that could stop them winning. 

The list goes on. 

 

I’ve worked with about a dozen Liverpool fans over the years, some in London and some up in Leicester and none have been like that.

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58 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

In 20/21 Man city won after 34 with 80 vs Man Utd at nr 2 with 67. In 19/20 Liverpool had 92 after 34, while Man City at nr. 2 had 69. Sure, Man City didn't get their usual 90+ season to compete with them, but that has only been going on since 17/18. Before Man Citys era of literally breaking records, Liverpools current season would win most seasons, and it would be secured around this time. It's a bit unfair to assume that competing against the best ever PL side is the usual standard.

 

About us being at 3rd: if we win 3 and lose 1 from the last 4, we will be at the same points as our 4th place season. We've also won 19 games this season, the same as our 4th season. The difference is that we drew a lot of games that season, and have taken some beating this season, but a win and a loss is more effective than 2 draws, nomatter how bad the loss is. If we go 3-0-1 now, we would have 6 more losses, despite ending up at the same point total. It was allways the case that you could afford bad runs when fighting for top 4, and sometimes 3rd aswell.

 

 

 

In 20/21 Man City were on for the quadruple right up until the end, losing the 2 they didn't win to another PL side (Chelsea) I take the point that, relatively, the competition wasn't there in the league, but they were still a fantastic side, this Liverpool side aren't. I've said it before but they filled a vacuum (left by Man City needing a rebuild and Arsenal being dickless) rather than set a standard.

 

Agree about our season but I don't think any of us would look at this season and say we've been as consistently good in the league as we were in 22/23. Not a criticism either really, FFP has held us back, but for us to be as streaky as we've been and to have that bad a summer transfer window, but be 3rd is mad. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Just been watching some of the incidents from the Copa del Rey - holy shit Jude Bellingham is a complete and utter twat. There's also him just standing there after a misplaced pass rather than trying to correct the error. It's unfortunate he'll potentially be central to the England team for several years. He's deeply unlikeable.

Jude also played really well. That shouldn’t be lost. 

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If/when the time comes, I hope our first title is like the Liverpool one this season just so it's easier on the nerves. None of this Aguero in the 94th minute, or having to come from 0-2 at HT on the last game to win 3-2 like City have had to endure. 

 

Save those for maybe the 3rd or 4th ones. 

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Just now, Dancing Brave said:

I'm watching the Leeds v Bristol City game, i'd enjoy it more if Andy Hinchcliffe would just shut the fuck up for a minute or two. 

You get Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman, which battle do you want to win?

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