nufcjb Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Paully said: Outrageous - lucky bastards! Gabriel is possibly the olayer I hate most in the league, let alone in that Arsenal team. Absolute snidy cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Hit me up with the facts then. Not educated guesswork or estimates based on what the media says individual players get paid or how many non-football staff are employed and what their wages are or how many non-football staff are outsourced or how much Directors might be getting paid who aren't the ones listed as the highest earning Director or many of the Director salaries are excluded from the club accounts and so on and so on. If you have cold, hard, officially published factual evidence on what the annual player wages are at each Premier League club, then share them. The facts are in the annual reports. You can quibble over the amount spent on cleaners and marketing people and if they are included or not if you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: The facts are in the annual reports. You can quibble over the amount spent on cleaners and marketing people and if they are included or not if you want Player wages are not in the annual reports. That's a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Player wages are not in the annual reports. That's a fact. They are literally included in the annual reports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 42 minutes ago, Froggy said: Newcastle closing in rightly on the "cartel." @Yorkie Pretty much paying the same wages as Spurs last year and that's before adding Elanga, Ramsey, Woltemade, Wissa and Ramsey who are all reported to be on £100,000+ each. Thiaw also reported to be on £75k. £70m a year behind us and that's before we got rid of Sancho, Rashford, Onana, Antony, Hojlund, Lindelof, Eriksen, Evans etc. off the wage bill which is significantly more than £70m. Thoughts? There was discussion about this on one of the Spurs podcasts. We know that wage spend is a better indicator of success than transfer spend - they pointed out that we’ve been low wage forever but recently started spending more on transfers. They expressed surprise that Man U seem to be heading the same way - reducing wage spend while still spending a lot in transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: There was discussion about this on one of the Spurs podcasts. We know that wage spend is a better indicator of success than transfer spend - they pointed out that we’ve been low wage forever but recently started spending more on transfers. They expressed surprise that Man U seem to be heading the same way - reducing wage spend while still spending a lot in transfer fees. We have had no other choice to be fair. The contracts handed out by Woodward and co. were insane. Thankfully we're under a wage structure now where the last of the mental contracts should end this summer and everyone else will be <£200k a week except for Bruno Fernandes who could be on a billion a week and still be underpaid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 53 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: They are literally included in the annual reports. No they're not. Annual reports include the entire wage bill for everyone employed by the entire football club. The only specific wage that is documented is the wage of the highest paid Director, if that person is employed directly by the football club. There is no officially reported extrapolation of players wages versus non-players wages. You'd have to be a complete moron to argue against that, because it's literally in the annual reports, have a look at NUFC's if you don't believe me. You can take an educated guess at player salaries, but you can't say for sure because of all the variables at each club. Which is what I've said all along. Edited May 6 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 56 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: @leffe186 this is what AI says about "squad cost" in the NUFC accounts: Short answer: they show what has been spent (net of amortisation), not what the squad is “worth” on the market. Here’s how to read these accounts in practical terms, using the specific Newcastle United figures. What the accounts do show 1. Historic cost of buying players (spread over contracts) Under UK accounting rules (FRS 102), players are treated as intangible assets and recorded at cost, not market value. Transfer fees (plus directly attributable costs) are capitalised That cost is then amortised evenly over the length of the player’s contract So the accounts capture what the club paid, allocated over time — not what the players could be sold for today. 2. Current “book value” of the squad The key figure is here: “The intangible asset that is material to the financial statements is the first team squad. The carrying value of the squad is £281.1m.” That £281.1m represents: Original transfer costs minus cumulative amortisation minus any impairment Think of this as the unwritten-down portion of past spending, not a valuation. 3. How much has recently been spent From the notes on intangible assets: Additions in 2024/25: £40.3m Amortisation & impairment: £99.8m Net book value fell from £350.0m → £281.1m This tells you that: Recent recruitment spending was relatively modest Existing contracts are being run down year by year through amortisation Much appreciated. Yeah that makes it a useful measure - it shows the actual hit to the books. Like, presumably as Bentancur cost £15M or so in Jan 2022 his squad cost is about £4M, whereas Gallagher’s squad cost this year will be the full £35M or whatever we spent on him. Chelsea’s figure for that is completely insane. West Ham’s is dangerously high too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Also it makes it (relatively) interesting to look at the percentage of revenue versus the sum of wages & squad cost to look at sustainability on the football side: Chelsea 491 - 359 - 1510 = -1378 Newcastle 335 - 243 - 581 = -489 Man City 694 (lol) - 408 - 1330 = -1044 Man U 667 - 313 - 1102 = -748 Spurs 565 - 256 - 697 = -388 West Ham 228 - 176 - 481 = -429 Aston Villa 378 - 273 - 540 = -435 Chelsea man. Fucking hell. I really hope Boehly doesn't know what he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 A friend of a friend's Dad used to do matchday security for Pardew. He got paid nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Hopefully tonights game is a replay of last weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 What we thinking for the score tonight then fellas? 15-14 PSG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Is it back on amazon or elsewhere tonight anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Is it back on amazon or elsewhere tonight anyone know? TNT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Hoping it's not a damp squib this one - Bayern have to go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Proper football incoming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I rooting for the team that can twat Arsenal in the final. Don't know which one is best to do that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 1 minute ago, Drewboy74 said: I rooting for the team that can twat Arsenal in the final. Don't know which one is best to do that though. Bayis Saint Munich. Edited May 6 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Fucks going on with the camera? Is Hitchcock directing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Already more exciting than the Arsenal game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Bayern 0 PSG 1 Dembele! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Start as you mean to go on lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Here we go. Again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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