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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

He’s definitely not handled the Sancho stuff well, his man management skills are awful.

 

He handled it perfectly. The only way anyone can suggest otherwise is if they're blissfully unaware of what happened. Sancho had chance after chance. 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

He’s definitely not handled the Sancho stuff well, his man management skills are awful.

 

 

 


As much as he’s probably been in the right the public spats with players like Sancho, Ronaldo, Maguire are corrosive to the squad buy in. Him and/or the club have showing they are willing to throw a player under the bus if it suits. 
 

Fraser was the closest we’ve had here but it was pretty much kept in house and just not talked about.
 

Howe will demand a lot from them and possibly be quite harsh if they are slacking but the players know they aren’t going to get publicly slated by the manager. 

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21 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Having a read of Red Cafe and it’s quite split on Ten Haag but they all seem to agree he shouldn’t be allowed any input on transfers. 

A little late for that now [emoji38]

 

He's spent what.. ? 400 million on absolute dross like Antony and Onana.

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1 minute ago, GeordieDazzler said:


As much as he’s probably been in the right the public spats with players like Sancho, Ronaldo, Maguire are corrosive to the squad buy in. Him and/or the club have showing they are willing to throw a player under the bus if it suits. 
 

Fraser was the closest we’ve had here but it was pretty much kept in house and just not talked about.
 

Howe will demand a lot from them and possibly be quite harsh if they are slacking but the players know they aren’t going to get publicly slated by the manager. 

Great Post.

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Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Didn't they bring in Rangnick to oversee the transfer department, then scrap that plan just because he had a shite run as Interim Head Coach? :lol:

 

All seems bizarre. 

 

Biggest mistake they made IMO.

 

Part of the reason they put him as manager was so he could have an insight into all of the players. He was supposed to restructure things completely I believe and not just transfers.

 

Gathered all of that info and presented the ideas of how to restructure things at the club and they binned him off based on results, when he wasn't even there to become manager.

 

The decision makers behind the scenes are the real problem at the club I think.

 

 

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Watching Man Utd implode is as joyous as finding a carrier bag full of jazz mags in a hedge when you were a youth, then getting home to see a note from your mam on the kitchen bench to say she’s gone looking for bargains at the community centre jumble sale and won’t be back for a couple of hours 

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5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Didn't they bring in Rangnick to oversee the transfer department, then scrap that plan just because he had a shite run as Interim Head Coach? :lol:

 

All seems bizarre. 

 

Yes and no. Rangnick took the Austria job. Was initially going to consult for us for a couple of days a month and then that was scrapped as it's utterly ridiculous. 

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

Yes and no. Rangnick took the Austria job. Was initially going to consult for us for a couple of days a month and then that was scrapped as it's utterly ridiculous. 

Wasnt the 'two days a month' role put forward after results started going tits up?

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2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Watching Man Utd implode is as joyous as finding a carrier bag full of jazz mags in a hedge when you were a youth, then getting home to see a note from your mam on the kitchen bench to say she’s gone looking for bargains at the community centre jumble sale and won’t be back for a couple of hours 


is that a Chaucer quote?

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Such a weird club, they have players that can win a match against any club on any given day but they don’t seem to have any interest in being consistent about it.

 

Something rotten there.. the way they’ve handled significant player situations (Greenwood, Sancho) has been appalling, owners that have no sporting interest in the club, no direction, what kind of scouting do they have?

 

You can see clear as day this will continue on and off, season after season. Change a manager, no difference..

 

ETH has been made to look a mug by his players. His aura of the work he did at Ajax in tatters, he’s been exposed there big time.

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2 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Wasnt the 'two days a month' role put forward after results started going tits up?

 

Yeah, that whole idea came about later when the decision makers started second guessing things I believe.

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3 minutes ago, Nobody said:

What the fuck is Varane doing for the first goal? :lol: Surely such an experienced defender knows he had to get back and help Dalot out there, but no he just stands there and watches it play out 

 

Absolutely shocking defending man.

 

Onana has been terrible, and it's been further compounded by what's going on in front of him.

 

He must miss the likes of Bastoni, de Vrij and Skrinniar badly. The luxury of having those three at centre back ahead of him is gone.

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36 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Club is being sold next month. It's all good. 


Man you’ve been on this board long enough all through the Ashley years. You should be able to sniff out false dawns easily.

 

The Glazers make too much from the club, or potentially having it as an asset to get cheap credit on from other ventures. I’d be shocked if they sold.

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2 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Fraser was the closest we’ve had here but it was pretty much kept in house and just not talked about.

 

Sancho, Ronaldo, or Maguire at Man United and Fraser at Newcastle United aren't even the same thing. 

 

of course, the club kept in in house. Nobody gives a f*** about Ryan Fraser except Ryan Fraser.

 

Like most non-"United" fans, I 'm sick of the constant media attention they get. But they do get it. What paper or website is going to waste their time writing about Ryan Fraser forced to play with the reserves?
 

edit But yeah, Eddie and the club handled it well. Also, he does well to avoid inventing  problems like Gerrard did when he stripped the captaincy from Tyrone Mings. 

 

 

Edited by gazza ladra

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