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7 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

The main problem for me is that as football supporters as a collective/community we do fuck all useful about it and don't help ourselves. Part of the problem being that we all know that if loads of us boycotted games for pricing reasons there'd be someone else willing to pay it, so FOMO to an extent overrides it, we pay anyway, and the club wins.

 

My first sentence is why things like #StopExploitingLoyalty get on my nerves, probably unfairly as they're right in what they say. Aye the FSA and supporter groups can stand there with a banner and it looks good on socials but ultimately what happens after? They go into the stadium to watch the game with the ticket they've paid £X for, so it amounts to little more than virtue signalling. The clubs and TV companies know we'll keep going anyway which is why they continue to take the piss.

 

I agree and it is a depressing part about it. What I find more depressing is the patter from our fans about it. "We need expensive tickets to increase revenues". "If you don't pay it then I will". It's lifting as fuck. 

 

I remember back in 2016 when Liverpool fans walked out of a game against the mackems on the 77th minute as LFC were putting some general admission tickets up to £77. The walk out happened and LFC relented and reduced the price back to what it was. Not a chance our lot would do anything remotely similar. They couldn't even be arsed to do much when Ashley was running the club into the ground. On top of that, Liverpool were 2-0 up in that game against the mackems. After the walk out, the mackems scored 2 late goals and drew 2-2. If a walk out did happen here and similar happened, would hate to think of the grief those that walked would be getting.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

I agree and it is a depressing part about it. What I find more depressing is the patter from our fans about it. "We need expensive tickets to increase revenues". "If you don't pay it then I will". It's lifting as fuck. 

 

I remember back in 2016 when Liverpool fans walked out of a game against the mackems on the 77th minute as LFC were putting some general admission tickets up to £77. The walk out happened and LFC relented and reduced the price back to what it was. Not a chance our lot would do anything remotely similar. They couldn't even be arsed to do much when Ashley was running the club into the ground. On top of that, Liverpool were 2-0 up in that game against the mackems. After the walk out, the mackems scored 2 late goals and drew 2-2. If a walk out did happen here and similar happened, would hate to think of the grief those that walked would be getting.

 

 

 

Think Man City have relented on pricing aswell haven't they after the late arrivals etc towards the end of last season?

 

On the flip side of that there's still talk of them switching on their facial recognition turnstiles next year, so swings and roundabouts 

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1 minute ago, Kilcline said:

Think Man City have relented on pricing aswell haven't they after the late arrivals etc towards the end of last season?

 

On the flip side of that there's still talk of them switching on their facial recognition turnstiles next year, so swings and roundabouts 

 

They did yeah. Didn't just freeze them but reduced them by a sizeable percentage.

 

I've read about that. How 1984 is football getting, man. :lol: 

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1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Just watched a video on R9, fuck me, don’t want to sound like an old man but football used to be so much better than it is today. It was still the beautiful game then

 

Documentary on iPlayer?

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23 hours ago, Sima said:


Have we released our matchday pricing yet?

 

If not, we’ll find out tomorrow.

58 for the Liverpool ballot, so way better than Villa's 77 unless you have to include the minimum 37 for membership - I usually come back to the UK June/July but doing August this year and will be here for this game. Booked a tour on our wedding anniversary :)

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4 hours ago, Kilcline said:

The main problem for me is that as football supporters as a collective/community we do fuck all useful about it and don't help ourselves. Part of the problem being that we all know that if loads of us boycotted games for pricing reasons there'd be someone else willing to pay it, so FOMO to an extent overrides it, we pay anyway, and the club wins.

 

My first sentence is why things like #StopExploitingLoyalty get on my nerves, probably unfairly as they're right in what they say. Aye the FSA and supporter groups can stand there with a banner and it looks good on socials but ultimately what happens after? They go into the stadium to watch the game with the ticket they've paid £X for, so it amounts to little more than virtue signalling. The clubs and TV companies know we'll keep going anyway which is why they continue to take the piss.

Yeah I think the problem is compounded by not only fans who have the money just going, but now you have tourists who will pay.

 

The FSA etc are all used by the likes of the FA and Premier as a box ticking exercise to say they have consulted the fans.

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This feels the best place for this. I've been trying to figure out why football seems less spontaneous than it used to be when I was growing up. I think there are many reasons, but I struck upon a tweet the other day that said the modern generation is so terrified of being perceived. This was a response to the original poster mocking MTV playing a show in the 90s that was just people dancing on the beach at Spring Break. 

 

It made me think of football and how aside from data, we're obsessed with player compilations of single games or single moments. We're constantly trying to perceive and judge player and social media has made those judgements and clips more accessible to a wider audience. When we were younger, sure a player may have a rough day or a bad half, but if they scored it was forgotten. In the same way we didn't catalogue every game and moment as evidence of a conclusion. We let them play and tried to make broader conclusions based over many games or a season or what stuck in our memory most. I don't doubt that created unreliable recollections in some cases, but I also wonder how much it helped maintain players' sense of expression. They were just allowed to feel out the game a bit and weren't forced into the few choices that had been coached into them. Like I say, this is not the only reason, but I was something I was debating, but didn't feel worth of a thread. 

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Just now, JT24 said:

Never knew I wanted my football club to have an official battery power product partner, until today.

Having one could be a positive or a negative depending on your view. 

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On 21/07/2025 at 20:56, gbandit said:

Just watched a video on R9, fuck me, don’t want to sound like an old man but football used to be so much better than it is today. It was still the beautiful game then

 

I have said so a few times, but until Messi came along I'd never witnessed a better player than him in a Barça shirt. That season he spent over here he was incredible, so dominant and effortless. I was so fucking devastated when he was sold.

 

"What if Ronaldo didn't fuck up his knee in Milan" is one of the greatest football what ifs in history. Even his diminished version is one of the best strikers of all time.

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