wormy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Yorkie said: Danny Gabbidon is a Tom Kerridge-Craig Bellamy hybrid. Thank you. Was driving me mad wondering who he reminded me of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Fuming about Wales stinking it out at this world cup. One half-decent half against USA, the rest of their games they've been a complete waste of space. Even the first half yesterday, they looked like a poor version of Bruce era Newcastle coming up against Man City away, just hoping that somehow they'd luck their way to a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Pickford's just a better all round goalkeeper. I think Pickford is better at kicking and that's it. If I had a straight choice between the two for Newcastle I would choose Pope every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, tgarve said: I reckon he will start Walker and Sterling unfortunately wouldn’t mind Philips in there if he opts for 3 in cm I actually think the midfield three of Henderson, Rice and Bellingham from yesterday had a really good balance, and would be tempted to start with that, as having Jude in that more advanced role allowed him more freedom to influence the game, especially with two players behind him that don't mind doing the dirty stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Pata said: Kane Sterling Mount Hendo Rice Phillips Shaw Walker Stones Maguire White Pickford ‘Hendo’ 🤮 Even with playing with 12 players in a 5-3-3 like above I still wouldn’t start him Edited November 30, 2022 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Nobody said: Pickford Trippier Stones Maguire Shaw Rice Bellingham Saka Foden Rashford Kane IMO I think Southgate will stick with the same side. Pushing Bellingham further forward into what looked like Mount's role seemed to work well. I think there's too much hype about Rashford. Both his goals involved goalkeeping errors. Gary Lineker pointed out correctly that he loses the ball a lot, and we really need to develop more fluency in our combination play. Rashford is a good athlete but with a poor first touch. I'd stick with Saka. Phillips is better at getting the ball forward than Rice, and I'd pick Henderson for his leadership. I don't think Kane is a great captain. So I'd pick - Pickford Trippier Stones Maguire Shaw Henderson Phillips Saka Bellingham Foden Kane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, jwclark2342 said: Why do I keep imagining Pickford’s short arms is going to cost England the World Cup? Perhaps a similar reason that I thought Shilton’s age-slowed reaction time might cost us in the 1990 finals (…think it did contribute). Similarly T-Rex arms might not reach something Pope would/could. Edited November 30, 2022 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, wormy said: Thank you. Was driving me mad wondering who he reminded me of. Just been talking about this with him on BBC Breakfast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ben said: I think Pickford is better at kicking and that's it. If I had a straight choice between the two for Newcastle I would choose Pope every time. Pickford's a slightly better shot stopper in my opinion and commands his area a bit better. Pope is just a taller Shay Given for me (which is obviously by no means a bad thing), I just think given the more rounded nature of all the top keepers these days Pickford edges it for me. In terms if who I'd rather have at Newcastle....howay, that's an obvious one. The charver twat would throw the ball in the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Pickford's a slightly better shot stopper in my opinion and commands his area a bit better. Pope is just a taller Shay Given for me (which is obviously by no means a bad thing), I just think given the more rounded nature of all the top keepers these days Pickford edges it for me. In terms if who I'd rather have at Newcastle....howay, that's an obvious one. The charver twat would throw the ball in the net. Pickford commands his box better than Pope? What am I reading….. Pope’s kicking is a bit rubbish by modern day keeper standards. But he is class coming off his line, claiming high balls and when playing as a sweeper keeper. I don’t get the Shay Given comparison at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Decent performance last night. First half was boring, but much better than Friday and we were in complete control. Just the final ball was lacking. It feels like we are still a very cautious side. But if we get a goal and teams have to throw caution to the wind against us. Then we have a chance of scoring through a number of players in the squad. Actually carry a lot of FRET when the game opens up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Lush Vlad said: Pickford commands his box better than Pope? What am I reading….. Pope’s kicking is a bit rubbish by modern day keeper standards. But he is class coming off his line, claiming high balls and when playing as a sweeper keeper. I don’t get the Shay Given comparison at all? Good shot stopper, good with crosses, decent 1 on 1's but poor distribution and at times a bit rooted. Just my observation from the Gallowgate. Best keeper since Shay by a distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TotalWar said: Are there any stats to show Bale’s performance during the game, how many touches, whether he actually moved at all? 7 touches, 4 passes (total, including accurate and inaccurate), lost possession 5 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ben said: I think Pickford is better at kicking and that's it. If I had a straight choice between the two for Newcastle I would choose Pope every time. More often than not Pickford finds the opposition with his long hoofs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Good shot stopper, good with crosses, decent 1 on 1's but poor distribution and at times a bit rooted. Just my observation from the Gallowgate. Best keeper since Shay by a distance. I think they are fair enough comments regarding Pope. Still don’t see how Pickford commands his box better, mind? Constantly flapping about, looks ropey with crosses and set pieces and just shouts at his defence and kicks off every 5 mins for no reason. All that said. I do get why Pickford starts ahead of Pope for England. Doesn’t look as ropey as he does for Everton and has never really been punished for errors he’s made. Pope had his chance to make an impression and blew it against Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Wullie said: 4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I think they are fair enough comments regarding Pope. Still don’t see how Pickford commands his box better, mind? Constantly flapping about, looks ropey with crosses and set pieces and just shouts at his defence and kicks off every 5 mins for no reason. All that said. I do get why Pickford starts ahead of Pope for England. Doesn’t look as ropey as he does for Everton and has never really been punished for errors he’s made. Pope had his chance to make an impression and blew it against Germany. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Prickford leave the six yard box to take a cross.All your points are valid.👍 Edited November 30, 2022 by tomlynnherrington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: I think they are fair enough comments regarding Pope. Still don’t see how Pickford commands his box better, mind? Constantly flapping about, looks ropey with crosses and set pieces and just shouts at his defence and kicks off every 5 mins for no reason. All that said. I do get why Pickford starts ahead of Pope for England. Doesn’t look as ropey as he does for Everton and has never really been punished for errors he’s made. Pope had his chance to make an impression and blew it against Germany. By box I mean 18 yard btw. I think every PL goalkeeper commands their 6 yard box, it's just a default 'must have' at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: By box I mean 18 yard btw. I think every PL goalkeeper commands their 6 yard box, it's just a default 'must have' at that level. I cannot remember which game it was but Prickford conceded a goal though a header in the six yard box recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, tomlynnherrington said: I cannot remember which game it was but Prickford conceded a goal though a header in the six yard box recently. I'm sure lots of goalkeepers have done, what's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Away Toon said: Walker is an athlete, he's fast or was fast. I don't think he's a very good footballer and I can't remember him ever sending in a good cross. Walker is not an upgrade in any sense over Trippier except maybe in a back 3. TAA is an upgrade on Trippier going forward but he can't or won't defend. Just my opinion. Trippy looks to link up with players in front of him as his preferred first option.Walker doesn’t, therefore slows the game down with his 10 yard passes either sideways or backwards. I still cannot understand why only Trippy gets pushed to left back and not Arnold or Walker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I'm sure lots of goalkeepers have done, what's your point? Just pointing out a recent incident where he didn’t command his six yard box.Sorry,I thought it was obvious as some of us are discussing Prickford not commanding his penalty box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: By box I mean 18 yard btw. I think every PL goalkeeper commands their 6 yard box, it's just a default 'must have' at that level. Aye. I wasn't on about the 6 yard box. Pickford just doesn't command his box better than Pope. I think Pope is usually off his line quickly, when that is the right thing to do. Even likes leaving his box quite regularly, which usually works, but always gets me a bit worried Not even a contest if you're talking about coming off his line for deep crosses or set pieces. Pope is far superior to Pickford at that. Edited November 30, 2022 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Aye. I wasn't on about the 6 yard box. Pickford just doesn't command his box better than Pope. I think Pope is usually off his line quickly, when that is the right thing to do. Even likes leaving his box quite regularly, which usually works, but always gets me a bit worried Not even a contest if you're talking about coming off his line for deep crosses or set pieces. Pope is far superior to Pickford at that. I cannot disagree with any on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Pope played twice in the run up and all the talk from neutrals was about how shite he was I know Pope isn’t shite, but we have no reason to replace Pickford. The clamour for it is odd. Edited November 30, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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