Erikse Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) He's saying that "Liverpool and Chelsea will wake up" as an argument for next season being so much harder to get top 4. They might wake up, but then some other teams might go to sleep aswell. Did Simon Jordan think before the season that Liverpool and Chelsea would perform like they have this season? Next year it might be one or two of the other "big 6" performing like that. Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United have all had their unexpected downfalls the last 10 years. Every season the argument is made that "but next season every team will perform"! The last 5 years the average requirement for top 4 has been 68 points, this season it might be 71 points! 71 points for 5th place would be the highest in 6 years. This season might actually prove to be more difficult to make top 4 than usual, contrary to the claims that it has been easier due to certain teams underperforming. Edited May 20, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 This is going to be Villa’s karma moment. All that arsehole behaviour when we went down at their place, they are now going to be the team that confirms our champions league place. Cheers you bunch of fuckers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I’m pretty sure the Netherlands used to do a play off for their last Champions League spot and UEFA asked them to stop and now they do it for a Europa Conference League spot instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: He's saying that "Liverpool and Chelsea will wake up" as an argument for next season being so much harder to get top 4. They might wake up, but then some other teams might go to sleep aswell. Did Simon Jordan think before the season that Liverpool and Chelsea would perform like they have this season? Next year it might be one or two of the other "big 6" performing like that. Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United all have had their downfalls the last 10 years. Every season the argument is made that "but next season every team will perform"! The last 5 years the average requirement for top 4 has been 68 points, this season it might be 71 points! This season has actually been more difficult to make top 4 than usual, contrary to the claims that it has been easier due to certain teams underperforming. Nothing that he has said there is wrong to be fair. No way will Liverpool or Chelsea be as bad next season as they were this season. Spurs seem to be a basket case at the moment and that may carry into next season, but potentially not as well. Next season will be harder again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, reefatoon said: This is going to be Villa’s karma moment. All that arsehole behaviour when we went down at their place, they are now going to be the team that confirms our champions league place. Cheers you bunch of fuckers Wasn't that when Grealish scored v Brighton to win us the Championship ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 That’s the beauty of the league. All we can do is speculate. As for us? “I’m getting the worrrrds, even better!” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, madras said: Wasn't that when Grealish scored v Brighton to win us the Championship ? This one will be sweeter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Just now, reefatoon said: This one will be sweeter. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Stifler said: Nothing that he has said there is wrong to be fair. No way will Liverpool or Chelsea be as bad next season as they were this season. Spurs seem to be a basket case at the moment and that may carry into next season, but potentially not as well. Next season will be harder again. We say this almost every season, don't we? What if for example Arsenal and Manchester United drop down again. I don't expect every "big 6" team to perform well every season. Who expected Chelsea and Liverpool to drop down this season? Unexpected things happens. Last season we could've been saying "but next season Arsenal and Man United will get stronger", which they did, but yet we managed top 4. I do think that top 4 will be more difficult because we will play in Europe aswell though, I agree on that part. Edited May 20, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Can we stop with this ‘United’ shit please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Hovagod said: Can we stop with this ‘United’ shit please? There can be only one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Can we stop with this ‘United’ shit please? I'm from Norway, everyone calls Manchester United "United" here because a large majority supports either Liverpool or Manchester United. Sorry, bad habit. Need to get used to calling them Manchester United. Edited May 20, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Erikse said: I'm from Norway, everyone calls Manchester United "United" here because a large majority supports either Liverpool or Manchester United. Sorry, bad habit. Need to get used to calling them Manchester United. It’s ManUre! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Vaammmmooooooos Villa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I’m actually pretty hopeful Bournemouth will get at least a point too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Always said Unai Emery is a warrior with a heart of fire who totally isn't threatened by Eddie Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, wiseman said: Would much rather manchester red then Liverpool finish 4th, Manchester have the financial backing to recover from missing champions league, Liverpool would suffer alot more for it, and are more likely to miss targets for it, and then struggle to recover. Also if Liverpool miss out Klopp may leave by "mutual" agreement and that would be great to see. I don't hate Ten Haag as much as Klopp so ManU 4th fir me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Something I said at the start of the season.... with regards to the "big 6".... there's always 2 clubs in crisis. When we have only 4/6 qualifying for the CL, that means 2 sides are effectively in crisis, such is the expectation. That means, fans protesting, managers getting sacked, players wanting out, upheaval, pressure and turmoil. Look at Chelsea and Spurs. Liverpool have managed to stay calm but that's entirely down to Klopp having already won it all, it buys him time. Look at how much people are now asking about Ten Haag, just because they might miss out. If Arsenal aren't in the top 4 come Xmas next year.... Arteta out will be trending on twitter. Newcastle are in a fortunate position, in that even if we finished 5th or 6th next year, we would look upon that as understandable given Europe and knowing where we have come from. I suppose my overall point is.... someone is going to be in crisis next season, its inevitable. 6 into 4 doesn't go and now its 7 into 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Always said Unai Emery is a warrior with a heart of fire who totally isn't threatened by Eddie Howe. Agreed, never accused Unai of bottling the Newcastle job at all, he was in fact loyal to his club and refused to walk out while they were competing in the CL. Plus any suggestion that he looks like Count Dracula is just fucking pathetic, he's a top bloke and one of the best managers around. Come on the Villa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 48 minutes ago, Erikse said: We say this almost every season, don't we? What if for example Arsenal and Manchester United drop down again. I don't expect every "big 6" team to perform well every season. Who expected Chelsea and Liverpool to drop down this season? Unexpected things happens. Last season we could've been saying "but next season Arsenal and Man United will get stronger", which they did, but yet we managed top 4. I do think that top 4 will be more difficult because we will play in Europe aswell though, I agree on that part. Assuming we get atleast 72 points, that would have been enough to finish top 4 in 7 out of the last 10 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, Erikse said: I'm from Norway, everyone calls Manchester United "United" here because a large majority supports either Liverpool or Manchester United. Sorry, bad habit. Need to get used to calling them Manchester United. Damn hard habit to get rid of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Erikse said: I'm from Norway, everyone calls Manchester United "United" here because a large majority supports either Liverpool or Manchester United. Sorry, bad habit. Need to get used to calling them Manchester United. You have an exemption in Norwegian law to slap these people when they do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Fountain said: I don't hate Ten Haag as much as Klopp so ManU 4th fir me. Yeah I actually have been impressed with Ten Haag this year, reinstating standards and dropping Ronaldo the way he did took some real courage to do, most managers wouldn't have done it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Stifler said: Nothing that he has said there is wrong to be fair. No way will Liverpool or Chelsea be as bad next season as they were this season. Spurs seem to be a basket case at the moment and that may carry into next season, but potentially not as well. Next season will be harder again. I've no problem with it being hard. This season it looked impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Kazzie said: Agree with America and reglegation, but they love a qualification tourmanent in post-season, the NFL Playoffs, NBA playoffs, etc. This is true....post season is used a lot in Australian sports too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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