cubaricho Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, STM said: I will tell you on April 22 whether we are finishing 4th. Hopefully the match I’m finally over for 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 16/01/2023 at 16:12, Froggy said: Since we lost to City in October, we've played 19 games in all competitons and won 16 of them. I would say that's why people see us getting top four rather than the failings of other teams. We both had massive slices of luck at the weekend but would argue that we both deserved to win anyway. My point is not berate Man U but to berate the opinion that Man U have positioned themselves to definitely do it but NUFC somehow have not and cannot. We've had better form for longer and are far less reliant on one player (Rashford). Man U look in an especially strong position because of Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea's struggles, but those struggles help NUFC in exactly the same way. For skeptical Toon fans incapable of forgetting Steve Bruce and the like, our form is now P38 W22 D10 L6 F58 A31 GD+27 Pts 76 18 clean sheets in there. 10 of the goals conceded were in two second half collapses last season. Only one home defeat, which featured Dubs, Krafth, Shelvey and ASM as a central striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 They've spent more last summer on a team that finished 6th, than we have on a team that was 19th in the last two windows. We have no right to be in the same category really, but here we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 15 hours ago, 54 said: Where's this from btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Where's this from btw Soccerstats.com https://www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england&stats=9-newcastle-utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Anyone else feel like the pundits have forgotten Man U and their Europa league commitments which will see a lot of their games moved to the shitty Sunday spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Anyone else feel like the pundits have forgotten Man U and their Europa league commitments which will see a lot of their games moved to the shitty Sunday spot? Also, they’ve already hosted most of the top sides. They now need to go away to Arsenal, NUFC, Spurs, Brighton, and Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Anyone else feel like the pundits have forgotten Man U and their Europa league commitments which will see a lot of their games moved to the shitty Sunday spot? Probably just assume they’re getting beat off Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 http://www.playoffstatus.com/english-premier-league/newcastle-standings.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: http://www.playoffstatus.com/english-premier-league/newcastle-standings.html So we're more likely to win the league than Man United? Cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: So we're more likely to win the league than Man United? Cool. I’m not sure that I’ve figured out their reasoning/methodology. Why are Man United higher in the table? Presumably because they have a game in hand? Haven’t sussed out “team controls destiny” bit (red vs. green) numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: I’m not sure that I’ve figured out their reasoning/methodology. Why are Man United higher in the table? Presumably because they have a game in hand? Haven’t sussed out “team controls destiny” bit (red vs. green) numbers. They've got Brighton finishing 5th too. Is it just based on difficulties of fixtures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Mad that it gives us an 86% chance of finishing in top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 We currently have 3 more points than Man United had at this stage in 95/96 No, I won't let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) The more you look into the stats, the more unbelievable it is like. Our rolling 38 game total is 76 points. That's with a team that regularly starts with 6 of the Rentford Rejects that were available under Bruce (Schar, Longstaff, Willock, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson) and who Howe has turned, to a man, into high performing top-end Premier League players in one way or another. The 95/96 team, Keegan's dream team (minus Shearer) that included Beardsley, Ginola, Ferdinand, Lee, Batty, Asprilla, Albert, Beresford - a team of superstars that multiple generations of Newcastle fans have in their all-time XIs - the high watermark where the crest of the wave broke? +2 points +2 GD Rolling 38 games Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts 4 Newcastle United 38 22 10 6 58 31 +27 76 95/96 Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts 2 Newcastle United 38 24 6 8 66 37 +29 78 Edited January 18, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Think of some of our unnamed lesser players who have played quite a bit in that rolling 38, as well. It's wild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kanji said: Think of some of our unnamed lesser players who have played quite a bit in that rolling 38, as well. It's wild. Krafth was amazing for us. Absolute revelation, doesn't get mentioned because he's been out forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: The more you look into the stats, the more unbelievable it is like. Our rolling 38 game total is 76 points. That's with a team that regularly starts with 6 of the Rentford Rejects that were available under Bruce (Schar, Longstaff, Willock, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson) and who Howe has turned, to a man, into high performing top-end Premier League players in one way or another. The 95/96 team, Keegan's dream team (minus Shearer) that included Beardsley, Ginola, Ferdinand, Lee, Batty, Asprilla, Albert, Beresford - a team of superstars that multiple generations of Newcastle fans have in their all-time XIs - the high watermark where the crest of the wave broke? +2 points +2 GD Rolling 38 games Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts 4 Newcastle United 38 22 10 6 58 31 +27 76 95/96 Pos Team P W D L GF GA GD Pts 2 Newcastle United 38 24 6 8 66 37 +29 78 Is there a site that gives you that rolling total or did you just work it out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, SteV said: Is there a site that gives you that rolling total or did you just work it out? Just used this - https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:premier-league/daterange/fromdate: compared 1st Jan 2022 to now gives you 38 games, then just compared that with the final 95/96 table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just to add to this, if we beat Crystal Palace on Saturday, the rolling total moves forward a game (it currently starts with the 1-1 draw with Watford last January) and we'll be 2 points better off again - level with the 95/96 season on 78 points and, at worst -1 on goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 We're Evens to finish out of the top 4. That would be a lovely cover bet, either double your money or NUFC in the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 It’ll be our results against the weaker teams in the league which will decide if we finish top 4. If we can beat teams in the bottom half until the end of the season, accounting for the odd slip-up or draw then it’s ours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Starting to look very real this. Man City to beat Spurs tomorrow hopefully and then even if we get a point at Palace it won't be owt too bad. Mind, we're due a decision against these after that calamity at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Spurs lose v Man City Liverpool & Chelsea draw Man U lose v Arsenal Spurs lose v Fulham All realistic. If we win at Palace it could look even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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