The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)

[Pata]

11 minutes ago, Displayname said:

But it isnt enough to just bet on Forest, need to place a bet on Villa aswell to be safe. So no double money. 

Need to wait for better odds on Villa and Forest for such a bet to make sense imo. The odds for Newcastle is kinda irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

I would be amazed if there isn't a bookie offering Newcastle top 5 yes or no. You could also offer people the chance to bet on us to make it at an exchange like Betfair.

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Pata

[Ginola14]

4 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Chelsea themselves will also be in a final.

the benefits of having a billion pound plus squad 

[geordie_b]

5 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

I would be amazed if there isn't a bookie offering Newcastle top 5 yes or no. You could also offer people the chance to bet on us to make it at an exchange like Betfair.

 

The market exists on BF its just not very liquid atm 

 

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/football/market/1.242003343

[SteV]

10 minutes ago, Ginola14 said:

I'm still worried that Spurs and MU will get a chance to mess up our CL chances 

 

Chelsea play MU at home 5 days before the Europa final 

 

Villa home to Spurs THREE feckin days before the final

 

then MU home to Villa 4 days after the final 

 

timing of these fixtures will massively benefit Chelsea (jammiest club ever) and Villa 

 

Tbf they’ve both been shite all season, so regardless of the proximity to the final, it’d arguably be blind hope that they got something, particularly Spurs away from home.

[Dancing Brave]

15 minutes ago, Cronky said:

I've had a look at the last four fixtures for the teams 3rd to 7th, and I would predict - 3rd Man City 71 points, 4th NUFC 69 points, 5th Forest 68 points, 6th Villa 67 points, and Chelsea 7th on 65. Forest and Villa look to have the easiest run-ins.

 

Must say, it's nice to look at the closing fixtures with a view to the Champions League rather than avoiding relegation.

100% agree with that ^

[Disco]

Looking at being bottom seed group if we’re CL and pot 3 if we’re Uefa Cup btw. Not that it matters as much due to the change in format IMO.

[Norseman]

4 minutes ago, Disco said:

Looking at being bottom seed group if we’re CL and pot 3 if we’re Uefa Cup btw. Not that it matters as much due to the change in format IMO.

It wouldn't matter much to us, but we'd be the team that other teams would hope to avoid from pot 4

[The Fountain]

1 hour ago, The Butcher said:

Think Liverpool will beat Chelsea.

If we were playing Liverpool at home and Chelsea were playing Brighton away we'd be shitting it 

[Harry 209]

Hard to believe that either Spurs or Man Utd are going to be the Champions League next year. 

[Harry 209]

58 minutes ago, Ginola14 said:

I'm still worried that Spurs and MU will get a chance to mess up our CL chances 

 

Chelsea play MU at home 5 days before the Europa final 

 

Villa home to Spurs THREE feckin days before the final

 

then MU home to Villa 4 days after the final 

 

timing of these fixtures will massively benefit Chelsea (jammiest club ever) and Villa 

 

Your'e right that the likely circumstances aren't going to help, but I think Villa and Chelsea would win those games even if Man Utd and Spurs are eliminated. 

[JUICE690]

32 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

Hard to believe that either Spurs or Man Utd are going to be the Champions League next year. 

Like hanging scat in the Louvre.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Displayname said:

Who the fuck decided to have the final before the ending of domestic seasons?

UEFA did in 1971-72; every UEFA Cup final until 2013-14 had been played before the end of the domestic season (before 1998 and the change to a one-leg final, the first leg of the final would be before the end of the English league season).  The norm is for it to come before the end of the league season.

[alexf]

Feel free to ignore this, just felt the need to type this out to help me process all this myself and see where I think we stand for the remaining games.

 

Villa.

Safe to say have got 6 points in the bag already with Man U and Spurs games. Strong chance they beat Fulham at home now that they have no other distractions and will be looking to bounce back from the cup final exit, plus not having lost more than 1 league game at home this season. 

 

So that's possibly 9 - 12 points with only Bournemouth away a potential banana skin. Leaving then 66 - 69 points

 

Chelsea

Could possibly beat Liverpool if they don't turn up, will defo beat Man U and could possibly beat Forest. Providing they lose to us they could be on 69 points.

 

Forest

Toughest game looks like the next one, away night game against buoyant opposition and in abit of a rut themselves. But they should beat Leicester and West Ham and possibly could beat Chelsea on final day if they need to so realistically 66 - 69 points. 

 

Man City

Trickyish games but you just know they normally find a way at this stage and with two being at home you back them + Southampton is a guaranteed. Wolves are the inform side though and they may slip up away to Fulham last day but I'll mark that as a draw at worst. 10-12 points. 73 points. 

 

Us. 

Simply have to beat Chelsea and Everton at home which puts us on 68 and would essentially knock Chelsea out the race hopefully if they drop points already to Liverpool. A point extra away at either Brighton or Arsenal hopefully would seal it, but if Arsenal get knocked out by PSG I don't fancy us to get anything if they are up for it. 

Need to go all in on this Brighton game and look to get 3 points to ease the pressure later. Cannot afford to assume others will slip up. But I'll go for a realistic 69 points for us. 

 

Simply have to beat Chelsea and eliminate them from the race, the only side that can catch our goal difference.

 

So I'll go:

City

Us

Villa

 

With Forest and Chelsea maybe drawing to screw eachother over and Villa sneaking in. 

[Sibierski]

8 hours ago, HayDen Traces said:

Gutted Man U are going to be in the champs lge & win a trophy in whats been their worst season in my lifetime. They must have made a deal with the devil to get all this good fortune

The final between them and Spurs going to be such desperation for both sides.

 

Long term, just papers over the cracks because they’re both showing nothing form wise that worries me next season as league is the main thing.

 

Also it reinforces why I have no sympathy for Man Utd fans when they moan about the Glazers, and it being tough for them. Going to be their 3rd Europa final in past decade.

[The Fountain]

6 hours ago, alexf said:

Feel free to ignore this, just felt the need to type this out to help me process all this myself and see where I think we stand for the remaining games.

 

Villa.

Safe to say have got 6 points in the bag already with Man U and Spurs games. Strong chance they beat Fulham at home now that they have no other distractions and will be looking to bounce back from the cup final exit, plus not having lost more than 1 league game at home this season. 

 

So that's possibly 9 - 12 points with only Bournemouth away a potential banana skin. Leaving then 66 - 69 points

 

Chelsea

Could possibly beat Liverpool if they don't turn up, will defo beat Man U and could possibly beat Forest. Providing they lose to us they could be on 69 points.

 

Forest

Toughest game looks like the next one, away night game against buoyant opposition and in abit of a rut themselves. But they should beat Leicester and West Ham and possibly could beat Chelsea on final day if they need to so realistically 66 - 69 points. 

 

Man City

Trickyish games but you just know they normally find a way at this stage and with two being at home you back them + Southampton is a guaranteed. Wolves are the inform side though and they may slip up away to Fulham last day but I'll mark that as a draw at worst. 10-12 points. 73 points. 

 

Us. 

Simply have to beat Chelsea and Everton at home which puts us on 68 and would essentially knock Chelsea out the race hopefully if they drop points already to Liverpool. A point extra away at either Brighton or Arsenal hopefully would seal it, but if Arsenal get knocked out by PSG I don't fancy us to get anything if they are up for it. 

Need to go all in on this Brighton game and look to get 3 points to ease the pressure later. Cannot afford to assume others will slip up. But I'll go for a realistic 69 points for us. 

 

Simply have to beat Chelsea and eliminate them from the race, the only side that can catch our goal difference.

 

So I'll go:

City

Us

Villa

 

With Forest and Chelsea maybe drawing to screw eachother over and Villa sneaking in. 

If Chelsea can possibly beat a Liverpool team with nothing to play for why can't we beat an Arsenal side with nothing to play for?

[alexf]

27 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

If Chelsea can possibly beat a Liverpool team with nothing to play for why can't we beat an Arsenal side with nothing to play for?

Because Arsenal seem to have a thing about us and if they have nothing else to play for, then they will put all their energy into "revenge" over us.

 

Or not, I dunno. 

[Wallsendmag]

35 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

If Chelsea can possibly beat a Liverpool team with nothing to play for why can't we beat an Arsenal side with nothing to play for?

 

Liverpool will have been on the drink all week. Their season is done now. Chelsea will beat them I reckon.

[Elliottman]

6 minutes ago, alexf said:

Because Arsenal seem to have a thing about us and if they have nothing else to play for, then they will put all their energy into "revenge" over us.

 

Or not, I dunno. 

Don’t think there’s much love lost between Chelsea and Liverpool either mind. 

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[gbandit]

5 minutes ago, 54 said:

Love looking at this right now 

[Paully]

I genuinely don’t understand how anyone is not super confident of top 5! We need to get into our mindsets that we are a very, very good team! 

[Boey_Jarton]

I can understand people's concerns. The opta probability says 84 percent but that can swing significantly after just one game week.

 

The Brighton game is an amazing opportunity. Win that and it feels nigh on impossible that we fail to qualify. We should go into that game with such mindset and should not think of it as a 'free hit'.

 

That term gives me awful memories of Pardew's team going to Spurs in 2012 and getting pumped 5-0!!! 

[Cf]

1 hour ago, alexf said:

Because Arsenal seem to have a thing about us and if they have nothing else to play for, then they will put all their energy into "revenge" over us.

 

Or not, I dunno. 

 

Losing you mean?

[The College Dropout]

It’s good that Forest are faltering. The fixtures have dropped nicely for Chelsea in terms of their Man U and Liverpool fixtures. That’s 4-6 points imo.  If they can beat one of us or Forest that will secure CL for them - maybe even just 1 draw.  
 

I’ve long felt 68 points would seal it for us and sticking with that. 

[Likelylad]

I’m hoping all this stuff about Liverpool being average champions, had it easy etc actually gets them in the mindset to finish strong.