Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Probably as good a game week as we could have expected, actually as good a final position after our last three games as we could have realistically hoped for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Loss against Liverpool was to be expected, we can still manage CL but we need to turn our performances around. Fortunately we have a break in PL games, and I'm hoping botman and Isak will be back next pl game. I reckon we can get 5th if we: Lose to Arsenal away - the hard game Get 2 wins and 2 losses out of Vila away, Everton at home, West ham away, and Brighton away - the games we have historically struggled with but are by no means unwinnable. Get draws from Chelsea at home, and Manu at home - games we could very well win but I don't feel comfortable enough calling. Beat Leicester away, Palace at home, Ipswich at home, and Brentford at home - games we should really in theory win. I think that's the most realistic course of events I can see and would land us on 64 points which I'm hoping would be enough for 5th but the issue is were so inconsistent. Edited February 27 by t00nt00n313 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 32 minutes ago, t00nt00n313 said: Loss against Liverpool was to be expected, we can still manage CL but we need to turn our performances around. Fortunately we have a break in PL games, and I'm hoping botman and Isak will be back next pl game. I reckon we can get 5th if we: Lose to Arsenal away - the hard game Get 2 wins and 2 losses out of Vila away, Everton at home, West ham away, and Brighton away - the games we have historically struggled with but are by no means unwinnable. Get draws from Chelsea at home, and Manu at home - games we could very well win but I don't feel comfortable enough calling. Beat Leicester away, Palace at home, Ipswich at home, and Brentford at home - games we should really in theory win. I think that's the most realistic course of events I can see and would land us on 64 points which I'm hoping would be enough for 5th but the issue is were so inconsistent. We need to beat Chelsea and Man U at home. I think 5th will need 66-68 points. We need to find a mini-run. Chelsea and Forest already have the points on the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Nottingham Forest-P27 Points 48 GD 11, Man City (H), Ipswich (A), Man U (H),Villa (A), Everton (H), Spurs (A), Brentford (H), Crystal Palace (A), Leicester City (H), West Ham (A), Chelsea (H) Manchester City-P27 Points 47 GD 16, Forest (A), Brighton (H), Leicester (H), United (A), Palace (H), Everton (A), Villa (H), Wolves (H), Southampton (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A) Chelsea-P27 Points 46 GD 16-Leicester (H), Arsenal (A), Spurs (H), Brentford (A), Ipswich (H), Fulham (A), Everton (H), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), Man U (H), Forest (A) Newcastle United-P27 Points 44 GD 8, -West Ham (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Man U (H), Palace (H), Villa (A), Ipswich (H), Brighton (A), Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A), Everton (H) Bournemouth-P27 Points 43 GD 13,Spurs (A), Brentford (H), Ipswich (H), West Ham (A), Fulham (H), Palace (A), United (H), Arsenal (A), Villa (H), City (A), Leicester (H) Brighton P27 Points 43 GD 5, Fulham (H), City (A), Villa (H), Palace (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (A), West Ham (H), Newcastle (H), Wolves (A), Liverpool (H), Spurs (A) Fulham P27 Points 42 GD-4, Brighton (A), Spurs (H), Arsenal (A), Liverpool (H), Bournemouth (A), Chelsea (H), Southampton (A), Villa (A), Everton (H), Brentford (A),Man City (H) Aston Villa-P28 Points 42 GD-5,Brentford (A), Brighton (A), Forest (H), Southampton (A), Newcastle (H), City (A), Fulham (H), Bournemouth (A), Spurs (H), United (A) Edited February 28 by astraguy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 In case anyone actually needed this reality check, the difference in fixture run-in for each of the clubs involved in the race for the European spots is, you know, pretty much ineligible. All 20 clubs play the other 19 clubs twice, home and away, across an entire season. That said, seeing what I've always said as visualised stats made my heart grow three sizes: That said, in the event that the run-in fixture nerds' are in the right and I'm in the wrong, they should be happy to see Fulham, Villa and Chelsea have "worse" run-ins in their fixtures than we do. On the other hand, Forest and Bournemouth have relatively much "easier" run-ins, with Brighton being just about on-par with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Still everything to play for here, lest we forget. Just need to figure out a way to protect our defence until we can take one of our opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I suppose the only glimmer of a positive today is that we won't get a fixture pile up now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: I suppose the only glimmer of a positive today is that we won't get a fixture pile up now And all the sides we are competing with for top 5 are in winnable cup competitions so may take their eye off the ball for some games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 15:56 Share Posted Saturday at 15:56 City winning or a draw earlier would have been preferable. Keep thinking Forest will get caught out and fall away. But fair fucking play to them Can’t see Forest dropping out the top 5 now and City the same. So it’s just stupidly tight for that last place or two, at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 00:22 Share Posted yesterday at 00:22 A lot can change. But points on the board is obviously a huge bonus. Every week is massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted yesterday at 01:59 Share Posted yesterday at 01:59 Feels like a bad day, with Forest getting closer to their spot, Brighton entering the mix + persistent Villa. Not even sure top 7 happens now, such is the tightness. Might end up being grateful for Conference League Shows how important it is to win on Monday night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 02:03 Share Posted yesterday at 02:03 We've been poor so frequently this season, if we don't get Europe we have nobody to blame but ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted yesterday at 03:17 Share Posted yesterday at 03:17 On days like today when all results seem to go against us I understand why people feel down but there's still a lot of games to go There will be weekends when it goes our way so think it's a bit soon to say we won't qualify What's important is that we need to go on a run of wins, do that and I think others will drop enough points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted yesterday at 06:34 Share Posted yesterday at 06:34 Would take a Europa League spot at this point. It would give us another realistic shot at a trophy with the added bonus of a champions league spot at the end of it. I'd go so far as to say, if we're in the Europa League, we should make winning it our number 1 priority next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 07:58 Share Posted yesterday at 07:58 Mad how quickly people disasterise. Everyone in this group we're in is patchy this season. The tightness of it all means just back to back wins can elevate you. We've got a relatively kind run of fixtures between now and the end of April; let's just see where we are then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted yesterday at 08:12 Share Posted yesterday at 08:12 6 hours ago, r0cafella said: We've been poor so frequently this season, if we don't get Europe we have nobody to blame but ourselves. 100%. I saw someone upset about Brighton's luck getting an injury time winner yesterday and how such results might cost us Europe. But these things even out over a season, if you end up 9th in the table after 38 games, that's the position you have earned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted yesterday at 08:14 Share Posted yesterday at 08:14 4 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: On days like today when all results seem to go against us I understand why people feel down but there's still a lot of games to go There will be weekends when it goes our way so think it's a bit soon to say we won't qualify What's important is that we need to go on a run of wins, do that and I think others will drop enough points Players need to step up and start performing, too many are out of form and that includes big names. After West Ham we have “on paper” winnable games against Brentford, Leicester, Man U and Palace. I feel like those 4 games before going to Villa will make or break us after the cup final and how we are mentally. If we knuckle down and get on a run in those games I’m actually confident of us getting 5th. Beating West Ham tomorrow would be massive for us getting Europe and for confidence before the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted yesterday at 08:15 Share Posted yesterday at 08:15 Is it just one team goes into the Europa league in 6th place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted yesterday at 08:17 Share Posted yesterday at 08:17 15 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Mad how quickly people disasterise. Everyone in this group we're in is patchy this season. The tightness of it all means just back to back wins can elevate you. We've got a relatively kind run of fixtures between now and the end of April; let's just see where we are then. Aye. I keep repeating myself, but it's worth looking at how we end our seasons under Howe. I'm confident we'll go on another points-heavy run at some point in the last 10 games, and that will more than likely get us into Europe next season. If that doesn't happen, then by all means start to panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 08:29 Share Posted yesterday at 08:29 6 minutes ago, NEEJ said: Aye. I keep repeating myself, but it's worth looking at how we end our seasons under Howe. I'm confident we'll go on another points-heavy run at some point in the last 10 games, and that will more than likely get us into Europe next season. If that doesn't happen, then by all means start to panic. Yeah; I think we will too. I don't want to "get it out the way," but being post-Cup final will help too. If we win, we've got Europe and we play with freedom. If we lose, it's done and the league is the sole focus. It's a shame we've apparently not really taken it in our stride but I'll happily accept ropey league form if it means we've got another 90-minute shot at silverware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted yesterday at 08:44 Share Posted yesterday at 08:44 Something else to bear in mind, despite our huge injury blows to Hall and Botman, we were probably more effective defensively in our first season under Howe when we had neither. We relied on Targett and Burn and we were super hard to break down. This time round we've got Livramento as well who can play either side if needed. I think we might need to tweak our tactics a bit, as these players don't suit the press so much, but they can definitely defend if given some protection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted yesterday at 11:59 Share Posted yesterday at 11:59 We’re more than capable of remaining unbeaten in the next 5 league games and for our aspirations should be aiming for 3 or 4 wins too. If we’re going to go on a run then it needs to start now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted yesterday at 12:38 Share Posted yesterday at 12:38 4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: Is it just one team goes into the Europa league in 6th place? Yes but FA Cup winners also get a Europa League spot If the FA Cup winners already qualify via the league then 7th will get the spot So ideally we need a team 6th and above to win the FA Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted yesterday at 13:31 Share Posted yesterday at 13:31 51 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Yes but FA Cup winners also get a Europa League spot If the FA Cup winners already qualify via the league then 7th will get the spot So ideally we need a team 6th and above to win the FA Cup Only Man City and Forest left right? from here I can’t see either side finishing below 6th. I think they will be top 4. It’s Villa I can see winning the Fa cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted yesterday at 13:42 Share Posted yesterday at 13:42 We got to stop gifting goals, and with Hall and Botman out Im very sceptical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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