The Prophet Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, Solitude20 said: Liverpool, Chelsea, and Spurs are all having a bad season, and this makes the CL target easier than your regular season. They might bounce back next season and make the CL qualification more difficult even if we get new players in. That’s why IMO this season is such a golden opportunity to get back to CL football, and I hope we see some great additions to the squad before the end of the window. I'd wager it'll still end up being around the same amount of points that guarantees you top four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Miercoles said: That 0-0 at their place is looking better and better every week. It was fairly even until about 70 in when Mitoma came on. fwiw, the chance we had when Miggy played in Wilson was actually onside, and would have stood if Wilson had scored. Since he didn't, VAR wasn't used and it gets ignored as a big chance created/xG. Just on our defence, but Arsenal home xG vs. Man U =2.93 (77 minutes of which was Arsenal drawing or losing and needing a goal) Arsenal home xG vs. NUFC =0.94 (90 minutes of which was Arsenal drawing and needing a goal) Given what Saka did yesterday to England's left back, what does this say about Dan Burn? I know we adjusted within 10 minutes to help him, but Saka didn't have a sniff against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just noticed only 1 team in the current top 8 have ever won the European Cup / Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Just noticed only 1 team in the current top 8 have ever won the European Cup / Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Solitude20 said: Liverpool, Chelsea, and Spurs are all having a bad season, and this makes the CL target easier than your regular season. They might bounce back next season and make the CL qualification more difficult even if we get new players in. That’s why IMO this season is such a golden opportunity to get back to CL football, and I hope we see some great additions to the squad before the end of the window. i agree. Massive opportunity to take advantage. Imo it’s a “must” to strengthen now if the right players are available. Hopefully this happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Solitude20 said: Liverpool, Chelsea, and Spurs are all having a bad season, and this makes the CL target easier than your regular season. They might bounce back next season and make the CL qualification more difficult even if we get new players in. That’s why IMO this season is such a golden opportunity to get back to CL football, and I hope we see some great additions to the squad before the end of the window. Agreed. We really need to capitalize while we can as this opportunity may not come along for another few years. Would be such a waste not to go big in these next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) End of January update to ‘top-ten tracker’ created in June. Thought I’d put it here as well as original thread, as I’ve added 4th place averages. The original, charts where we would be most likely to pick-up points based on strength of opposition (last season’s finishing position) and home/away advantage. We’re 9pts ahead of that original target. I’ve assumed the re-arranged West Ham away will take place in March. Given the top ten hopes have become irrelevant (hallelujah!) I’ve added the average points totals for 4th place in the PL (68 pts based on a 38 game season), the maximum total for 4th (79pts, Arsenal 2013-14) and minimum (60pts, Liverpool 2003-4). We’re currently one point ahead of the average. Edited January 23, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Cue champions league anthem… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The Chaaaaarm-pyons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think we'll get a clear picture of both of our teams in the next five league games. We have Palace (H), Leeds (H), Leeds (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (H). You have West Ham (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Brighton (H), Man City (A). How many points would you boys expect from those 5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyIsak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Froggy said: I think we'll get a clear picture of both of our teams in the next five league games. We have Palace (H), Leeds (H), Leeds (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (H). You have West Ham (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Brighton (H), Man City (A). How many points would you boys expect from those 5? I'd expect 7 at least for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: I think we'll get a clear picture of both of our teams in the next five league games. We have Palace (H), Leeds (H), Leeds (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (H). You have West Ham (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Brighton (H), Man City (A). How many points would you boys expect from those 5? 8-10 West Ham - Win Bournemouth - Win Liverpool - Win Brighton - Draw City - Lose Edited January 23, 2023 by NWMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I was thinking 8 would be solid for Newcastle. I'll be disappointed with any less than 15. 12 maybe more realistic but we have to be winning all of those home games. I'm still thinking about Spurs and Liverpool. Hoping to create an even bigger gap after the next five games. It helps that we've played both Arsenal and City twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Abacus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: I was thinking 8 would be solid for Newcastle. I'll be disappointed with any less than 15. 12 maybe more realistic but we have to be winning all of those home games. I'm still thinking about Spurs and Liverpool. Hoping to create an even bigger gap after the next five games. It helps that we've played both Arsenal and City twice. Yeah, 7 probably for us. I reckon 12 for you after that little run. It depends how you react after yesterday, as that (probably) puts title talk to bed. Ten Hag is decent, though, so I can't see any collapse coming. To be fair, I don't see either team collapsing, for us the issue is much more about being able to unlock teams setting up to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Froggy said: I think we'll get a clear picture of both of our teams in the next five league games. We have Palace (H), Leeds (H), Leeds (A), Leicester (H), Brentford (H). You have West Ham (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Brighton (H), Man City (A). How many points would you boys expect from those 5? 16. Plus 1 for the goal difference improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Abacus said: Yeah, 7 probably for us. I reckon 12 for you after that little run. It depends how you react after yesterday, as that (probably) puts title talk to bed. Ten Hag is decent, though, so I can't see any collapse coming. To be fair, I don't see either team collapsing, for us the issue is much more about being able to unlock teams setting up to defend. Yeah I'm hoping there's no fallout from yesterday. It was an expected loss but it could have been much, much worse. I think 3-2 flattered us. The media were desperate for us to join the title race. Glad that's nipped in the bud. We aren't winning a title with Wout Weghorst as the only striker option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I can imagine a draw v city. Arsenal couldn’t score. Man City will struggle as well. Them 5 games still doesn’t show me a loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Does 3rd place guarantee the group stage of just a play-off place? Would really want 3rd if its a guarantee. Partizan Belgrade still giving me horror nightmares till this day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If we could somehow get 10 points from those 5 games then we’re absolutely motoring towards a CL spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Froggy said: Yeah I'm hoping there's no fallout from yesterday. It was an expected loss but it could have been much, much worse. I think 3-2 flattered us. The media were desperate for us to join the title race. Glad that's nipped in the bud. We aren't winning a title with Wout Weghorst as the only striker option. Are you guys having any belief that the Europa League is winnable and thus, an entry into the Champions League? Ten Haag seems like someone who can bring a cup trophies for you lot (just hopefully not the League Cup mind ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Are you guys having any belief that the Europa League is winnable and thus, an entry into the Champions League? Ten Haag seems like someone who can bring a cup trophies for you lot (just hopefully not the League Cup mind ) It's definitely winnable, but I don't think many of us expect to get past Barca. It would be class to win a trophy this season but the league is always the most important IMO. It would be very nice to win a trophy mind, whether that's the EL, FA Cup or League Cup. I wouldn't be completely gutted to go out of the Europa League mind. It's a lot of extra games and we don't have the biggest squad. The Barca games are coming in between very winnable league games. If there's to be any rotation I'd want it in the European games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said: the maximum total for 4th (79pts, Villa 2013-14) I just did a huge double take at that and thought I'd missed something big that happened. It was Arsenal, Villa were 15th. Great work btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyIsak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Does 3rd place guarantee the group stage of just a play-off place? Would really want 3rd if its a guarantee. Partizan Belgrade still giving me horror nightmares till this day. Top 4 go straight to group stage now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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