Paullow Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Odds-wise, it was more competing with West Ham and Leicester for 7th to 9th. https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/premier-league-odds-2223-outright-winner-top-4-and-relegation/200983 Premier League Top Half finish 22/23 (via Sky Bet) 1/5 - Newcastle 4/6 - West Ham 4/5 - Leicester 7/4 - Aston Villa, Brighton 5/2 - Everton, Wolves 11/4 - Crystal Palace, Leeds 3/1 - Southampton 9/2 - Brentford Premier League Top 4 finish 22/23 (via Sky Bet) 1/50 - Manchester City 1/10 - Liverpool 4/5 - Chelsea 11/10 - Manchester United, Tottenham 7/4 - Arsenal 6/1 - Newcastle 12/1 - Leicester, West Ham Premier League winner 22/23 (via Sky Bet) 4/7 - Manchester City 2/1 - Liverpool 16/1 - Chelsea 25/1 - Manchester United 28/1 - Tottenham 40/1 - Arsenal 50/1 - Newcastle https://talksport.com/sport/betting-tips/1081782/premier-league-odds-man-city-title-top-four-relegation/ Winner Man City 4/7 Liverpool 2/1 Tottenham 14/1 Chelsea 16/1 Man United 28/1 Arsenal 66/1 Newcastle 80/1 West Ham 150/1 Leicester 200/1 Aston Villa 200/1 Brighton 250/1 Everton, Wolverhampton, Crystal Palace 500/1 Southampton, Leeds United, Brentford 750/1 Fulham, Nottingham Forest 1000/1 Bournemouth 2000/1 Top 4 Man City 1/33 Liverpool 1/10 Chelsea, Tottenham 8/11 Man United 11/8 Arsenal 7/4 Newcastle 8/1 West Ham 12/1 Leicester City, Aston Villa, Brighton 16/1 Everton, Wolves, Crystal Palace 33/1 Brentford, Southampton, Leeds 50/1 Fulham 66/1 Nottm Forest 100/1 Bournemouth 150/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Obviously, West Ham and Leicester have massively failed (domestically) this season, and are nailed on to both finish in the bottom half, if not relegated, and our odds would have been exaggerated due to bookies fear, and also expected money to be placed due to the sheer magnitude of the takeover, but while we obviously can't influence how well other teams do, I agree with those who say it would be a bit disappointing if we were to finish below Brighton (or Brentford) given the position they were in, and those teams now being within 2 or 3 points, and significantly closing the gap in recent weeks, isn't ideal. Brighton are strange. They have finished bottom 6 every season since they came up with us in 2017, bar last season when they finished 9th, just a couple of points above us in 11th, but despite this, they do seem to have been geared up to do well, and it feels like they have been doing well for a while, despite their general low league finishes (as low as 16th in 2021). They also lost two of their supposed better players in the summer, and brought in lesser known players (as usual), but as others say they are very well run behind the scenes, and always seem to have a contingency plan in place for whenever it's needed, and in most cases, that plan often works out an upgrade. I'd have been very happy with 7th to 9th 'and a cup run' at the start of the season, and I'd still be OK with 7th now (as long the FA Cup was won by a side in the top 6, so we still got some sort of European football), but given we were like 8 or 9 points clear of Brighton and Brentford not too long ago, it would be a bit disappointing if we were to finish below another 'non top 6 team', even if we were to finish above the likes of Chelsea. Finishing 7th behind the 'big 6' and being the obvious 'best of the rest' at this stage of our journey, and getting the plaudits for that, would have been more satisfying to me than finishing 7th behind a supposed lesser side, who would have had an even better season than us, if that makes sense. Edited March 16, 2023 by Paullow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Dreaming again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Dreaming? We're favourites for fourth again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Two late winners back to back. This is what separates winners from the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Our goal difference could be crucial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Huge, not just the points but the belief it’ll give the players. Beat Man U and we’re taking fourth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rich said: Dreaming? We're favourites for fourth again. 3rd in our hands, 12 games left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Totemham have the hardest run in for me. if we beat manu we are above them on gd. top four is possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 First away win in five. First in 2023 too. Twelve points from our last eight games now, the same as Man U. 18 points from the remaining 12 gets us to 65. 5-3-4 or even 4-6-2 would do it. More points would be better of course, but 65 is looking like there or thereabouts. In the big games to come at SJP, avoiding defeat might be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Beat Manure and we could be on our way, especially with 3 away games to follow. Still be delighted with top 6, but it really is all to play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Our next six games won't be easy, villa n Brentford are key to getting something. We need atleast 24 points from the 36 remaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 A Southampton win today please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I think we’ll get our revenge on Man U at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, LV said: I think we’ll get our revenge on Man U at home. If we beat Man U the momentum is ours - BRING IT ON !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, duo said: If we beat Man U the momentum is ours - BRING IT ON !! Atmosphere will be immense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: A Southampton win today please. Would take a Southampton draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Wouldn’t mind a 7-0 beating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 When you're in this position, every one of our games is such a nerve wrecking experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 how are man u 90% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Liverpool have an insanely hard next 3 games like. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, samptime29 said: Liverpool have an insanely hard next 3 games like. Wow. We've done immense to get back to 5 points clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 games without Casemiro could be huge for Man U. Beat them at St James's and we'd really put the wind up both them and Spurs,who I'd love to see implode under Conte. Rather be aiming at two chances to get past a team for top 4 instead of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, astraguy said: how are man u 90% I guess because their run in is seen as less difficult than the others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, astraguy said: how are man u 90% unconcious bias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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