Elliottman Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 5 hours ago, Erikse said: I truly hope he doesn't start against Burnley. Given Howe said he was our best attacker I’d be amazed if he doesn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 He screamed at Woltemade in 1st half for not passing to him..Did the same up at Sunderland..Sooner we are shot of Gordon the better..Only turns up when he wants to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 1 minute ago, johnny36 said: He screamed at Woltemade in 1st half for not passing to him..Did the same up at Sunderland..Sooner we are shot of Gordon the better..Only turns up when he wants to I despise the way he carries on. He always screams in the most absurd situations too, yesterday he was in the middle of nowhere and Nick picked a better option and then he’s screaming his head off. It’s a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 He hasnt been the same player since the red card against Brighton..Ya he had a great first half against Chelsea but thats it in 10 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 “Roy Keane and Jamie Carragher's brutal analysis nailed problem that is blighting Newcastle United” “I think 18 months ago Anthony Gordon was looking as good as any left winger in the Premier League at that stage,” said Carragher. “It just hasn’t seemed to happen for him in terms of kicking on to the next level where he becomes Newcastle’s best player, becomes arguably one of the best players in the Premier League. “He was very close to moving on to Liverpool when Newcastle had PSR issues. Whether that affected him as I know he’s a Liverpool fan even though he came through at Everton, but he’s never quite got to those heights. “There’s definitely a really special player in there. But consistency is the biggest key.” Keane chimed in to agree, adding: “If you’re playing for one of the big clubs you’ve got to be consistent. Sometimes players like that are no good to you - you’ve got to turn up week in, week out.” “That’s the sign that you want to be a great player. He’s a talented player - I am having a go at him but I like him. You talk about the stats, when he’s running off people and putting balls in like we’ve seen then fantastic. “When they don’t turn up week in, week out, that must be so frustrating for the manager, the supporters, the teammates and the player himself. Consistency is key if he wants to go on to the next level.” Gary Neville was very critical also, saying throughout his commentary that Gordon was ‘too wide and too deep, not in a position to impact the game’. He added: “If I was a right-back I’d be very happy.” It felt slightly unfair on Gordon. He may not have had his best game but the winger was trying to make an impact, dropping deep and coming off his flank as he attempted to create an opportunity for the Magpies. He looked hungry, full of energy and desire and Eddie Howe praised his performance afterwards. However, Keane and Carragher were certainly right in their analysis. Gordon's consistency has blighted his - and Newcastle's - season thus far. He could (should) have” scored a couple at Old Trafford and should be scoring and contributing more each season. His form, perhaps, is also an indication of Newcastle's inconsistencies too. David Hopkinson wants the club to be one of the best in Europe by 2030. They already have a player in their ranks with the ability to be a truly world-class winger.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: I think everyone sees it differently. But it’s more that his performances are always night and day, basically week to week. So many predicted after such a good performance against Chelsea. He’d soon revert to type. He did, IMO. I don’t think it is always through a lack of effort FWIW. Even though I think he is a moody player and his application often seems lacking. I just also think he technically isn’t as good as he tries to be these days. His finishing and passing is often poor. I think he has changed as a player and how he approaches the game. Not sure if that is from him, coaching, being found out a bit or all of the above. But too often now I find him ineffective and awful to watch. Especially when we have a less flash but more effective player who always makes way for him. Regardless of form. EDIT - just to add. Woltemade is still new to the side and league. Has some promising signs but also goes AWOL a lot. He does get criticism, but understandably less. He also has 9 goals for us already despite being a work in progress/us not getting the best out of him. Murphy is so limited as a player. But he knows what he’s good at and regularly puts in 2-3 devilishly good balls every week. He always used to get shit. But I think people just appreciate what he brings now and for all his flaws. What you see is what you get. Gordon is supposedly one of our star players and is paid like one. Rarely performs like one. Great post. I agree fundamentally Gordon is technically average/decent. That limits his ceiling and ends up like performances of yesterday. Which I’m largely ok with. He worked hard. Hustled. Used his pace well. But lacked quality - which a player like him will sometimes lack. That’s fine. With that application goals and assists will come. HOWEVER that application has been lacking all too often this season and last. And that I am not ok with. For our level. He is fine overall if he’s applying himself. But we should look to improve our n his profile for the other winger spots. That’s where we fumbled in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 Should have sold Gordon instead of Anderson and Minteh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 Just now, Toon No9 said: Should have sold Gordon instead of Anderson and Minteh. Absofuckinglutely. But at the time keeping the guy who had double figure goals and assists did seem the sensible option. Pity he’s gone to shit since signing his big money deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weznufc Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: Should have sold Gordon instead of Anderson and Minteh. 💯. Wish we did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 So do I in hindsight. But everyone would have kicked off if we sold our player of the season to Liverpool that summer. I think I certainly would have done. Hard to predict he would try and adapt his game, get loads worse and become wildly inconsistent. Anderson and Minteh were also unproven. The former was position-less for us and Minteh had one quality season in a poor league under his belt and that was it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 I must be the only fucker that doesn't want him peddled ,he'd make a great yoga teacher after he retires imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 33 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: They already have a player in their ranks with the ability to be a truly world-class winger.” Do we fuck like. Who is this statement attributed to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 26 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: Should have sold Gordon instead of Anderson and Minteh. Wonder whose idea it was to try this first? Wise beyond their years whoever it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 41 minutes ago, gbandit said: Do we fuck like. Who is this statement attributed to? Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Gordon I mean, who made the statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMSIllustrious Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: I mean, who made the statement? Carragher? Scouse buddy bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palestoon Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 Gordon's issue is that hes very average technically. His best attributes have always been his pace, relentlessness, and energy. We no longer consistnently play in a style that suits that aspect of his game. Its not a coincidence that his best form always dovetails with when our pressing game is at its peak and we're blowing teams away with our intensity. Does he think too highly of himself, and has his intensity dropped since becoming an England regular? Probably, but I think its secondary. I just dont think hes very good outside of when we are going 100 miles an hour. He will never be a great ball possession player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Palestoon said: Gordon's issue is that hes very average technically. His best attributes have always been his pace, relentlessness, and energy. We no longer consistnently play in a style that suits that aspect of his game. Its not a coincidence that his best form always dovetails with when our pressing game is at its peak and we're blowing teams away with our intensity. Does he think too highly of himself, and has his intensity dropped since becoming an England regular? Probably, but I think its secondary. I just dont think hes very good outside of when we are going 100 miles an hour. He will never be a great ball possession player. Spitting facts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Palestoon said: Gordon's issue is that hes very average technically. His best attributes have always been his pace, relentlessness, and energy. We no longer consistnently play in a style that suits that aspect of his game. Its not a coincidence that his best form always dovetails with when our pressing game is at its peak and we're blowing teams away with our intensity. Does he think too highly of himself, and has his intensity dropped since becoming an England regular? Probably, but I think its secondary. I just dont think hes very good outside of when we are going 100 miles an hour. He will never be a great ball possession player. Yep. I'm largely ok with that as long as he plays with intensity. I think some of us thought he was better than he is. He's proving he's unlikely to play with that edge he has day in day out, month in month out year in year out. That's what i've realised over the last 18 months. He doesn't have that consistent mental edge a Keane had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 Drop him then sell him to Liverpool for around 60-70m. Invest wisely. Don’t let Howe get involved in who his replacement is, job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 9 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: Drop him then sell him to Liverpool for around 60-70m. Invest wisely. Don’t let Howe get involved in who his replacement is, job done. No one is paying that for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 (edited) On 27/12/2025 at 14:47, SteV said: There’s plenty of merit in many of those points. But it does kinda confirm that, rightly or wrongly, Gordon is held to higher standard of accountability/blame than the majority of others. Is he though? Every time Murphy loses the ball he is berated - as is Elanga. Yet Gordon can do that multiple times and until recently has got away scott-free. Gordon has the same number of 'in-play' PL goal contributions as Elanga this season btw... Edited December 29, 2025 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 Our collective heads would have exploded if we sold Gordon to Liverpool that summer, and rightfully so. It’s also hard to predict what Gordon would be like today after two seasons at Liverpool, or what would have happened to Anderson or Minteh if they were struggling to break into our first team here. Players are human beings, they are complex and their development is equal parts skill and happenstance. It just so happens that every possible variable turned out badly for us with these particular transactions, but in the moment the decisions were still very much defensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, Palestoon said: Gordon's issue is that hes very average technically. His best attributes have always been his pace, relentlessness, and energy. He will never be a great ball possession player. I must be watching a completely different player because ball possession is one of his top skills. Can fizz it into him and he will majority of time take it under control, and either play it back or move in side to draw a foul. He’s as close to a Grealish type in that style you can get, and Grealish is the elite ball possession player. What lets Gordon down is his inability to score when coming inside and taking on players when it’s a standing position facing someone up. You reduce space for him to run into, he can be shut out of a game easily, but ball possession is something I’d never say he’s weak at. Edited December 29, 2025 by Sibierski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 10 minutes ago, Heron said: Is he though? Every time Murphy loses the ball he is berated - as is Elanga. Yet Gordon can do that multiple times and until recently has got away scott-free. Gordon has the same number of 'in-play' PL goal contributions as Elanga this season btw... In stadium, you’re probably right, everyone gets it. But on here, and SM (OK, might be best off ignoring that), I defer back to the game the other night. Gordon, whilst elements of his performance were hugely frustrating, was far more dangerous than Murphy or Woltemade. But who’s the one who has pages and pages of negativity? There’s been some perfectly valid points made by @Lush Vlad , amongst others, on how we should expect more from him due to previous performances, wages etc, compared to the likes of Murphy. And I don’t dismiss that at all. I agree up to a point. I suppose I just rail slightly against the reactionary, ‘fuck him off’, ‘he’s shit’, type of comments when he is, and continues to be, one of our best players, albeit not currently at in a consistent enough manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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