wyn davies Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Myleftboot said: Would be handy to be in it every year. At the rate of having more sh*t from certaing criteria on this forum, being one of the 32, yes it would be very handy to qualify every year for the CL, but as already been proven we wont do it every year under Howe, bearing in mind we got in due to other teams errors last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, wyn davies said: At the rate of having more sh*t from certaing criteria on this forum, being one of the 32, yes it would be very handy to qualify every year for the CL, but as already been proven we wont do it every year under Howe, bearing in mind we got in due to other teams errors last season. Wow! You could argue every achievement is earned that way but hey ho. Of course we did nothing over the course of the season to put ourselves in to that position. Given there are 8 teams setup to challenge for Champions League and at least 5 can comfortably outspend us any regular qualification would be a fantastic achievement. Personally I’d be over the moon with qualifying via a Europa League win, another pot in the cabinet and shit ton of fun for the supporters which is for me what being a supporter is all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, wyn davies said: At the rate of having more sh*t from certaing criteria on this forum, being one of the 32, yes it would be very handy to qualify every year for the CL, but as already been proven we wont do it every year under Howe, bearing in mind we got in due to other teams errors last season. Christ almighty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Anyone who has expectations of us qualifying for the CL every season is a bit of a tit. We're miles off the budgets of the superleague six, sitting 8th in terms of salary budget, and closer to West Ham than Arse, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Man Utd. Even finishing 6th regularly is over-performing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Anyone who has expectations of us qualifying for the CL every season is a bit of a tit. We're miles off the budgets of the superleague six, sitting 8th in terms of salary budget, and closer to West Ham than Arse, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Man Utd. Even finishing 6th regularly is over-performing. Yes while the current restrictions remain we will continue to have the odd foray into the champions league and aim for cups, that’s it. Financial wing clipping has assured that even if we continue to grow revenue gradually and improve in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 hours ago, wyn davies said: At the rate of having more sh*t from certaing criteria on this forum, being one of the 32, yes it would be very handy to qualify every year for the CL, but as already been proven we wont do it every year under Howe, bearing in mind we got in due to other teams errors last season. It would be helpful if you could say what you'd expect from a different manager whilst working under the same restrictions that Howe is. Rather than just planting a foot firmly into your own mouth with this sort of statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 CL every season should be the aim. That isn't the same, though, as perceiving every season in which we don't qualify as an automatic failure, or that not qualifying reflects solely on the manager, devoid of a wider context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 CL money is good cheese but its not sustainable whilst the cartel can miss out and delve into deeper revenues every season regardless of performance by virtue of being allowed to establish those revenues that we are not. Whole thing is sewn up nice and tight. Arsenal have just raised ticket prices which off-sets some of our gains and this is how it will continue. Unless the rules change, the pecking is never going to change. Which is the whole purpose of the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I see Chelsea have recorded a record loss of £342 million under UEFA rules. I'm sure they'll be punished accordingly..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Kick them out of the competition. After we draw them tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 This is about Villa but may be a rough figure for us assuming we aren't going to be playing in the Champions League next season Quote Senior figures, speaking on the condition of anonymity as they are not authorised to do so, told The Athletic last year that missing out on the Champions League caused a £70m deficit in the accounts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 19 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: This is about Villa but may be a rough figure for us assuming we aren't going to be playing in the Champions League next season Only if we’re planning like we’ll have it, which I would assume we’re not. Any English club operating with an assumption of CL revenue is playing a dangerous game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, macphisto said: I see Chelsea have recorded a record loss of £342 million under UEFA rules. I'm sure they'll be punished accordingly..... Pretty sure they are in a probationary period after already being punished, so they won’t be again. The CWC boondoggle and CL money has given them a reprieve, but if they fall out of the top 5 they could be on the brink of trouble. Two years straight of no CL money would probably trigger a chain reaction. Everyone should be rooting against Chelsea every time they play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 21/02/2026 at 15:57, wyn davies said: At the rate of having more sh*t from certaing criteria on this forum, being one of the 32, yes it would be very handy to qualify every year for the CL, but as already been proven we wont do it every year under Howe, bearing in mind we got in due to other teams errors last season. I often think that internet forums aren't for me but they're definitely not for some folk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 21 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Only if we’re planning like we’ll have it, which I would assume we’re not. Any English club operating with an assumption of CL revenue is playing a dangerous game. Leeds did that 25 years ago, and it very nearly killed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 45 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Only if we’re planning like we’ll have it, which I would assume we’re not. Any English club operating with an assumption of CL revenue is playing a dangerous game. I don't think it's a case of planning for it or not but there's clearly going to be a sizable drop in income between 25/26 and 26/27 if we aren't in the Champions League next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 It seems NUFC were actively pushing for the move to SCR. Is now the time to unleash training ground sponsors, and all of the other spurious agreements that the big 6 already have in place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I don't think it's a case of planning for it or not but there's clearly going to be a sizable drop in income between 25/26 and 26/27 if we aren't in the Champions League next season Yeah but it’s the most predictable drop ever. This is such a weird paragraph: Senior figures, speaking on the condition of anonymity as they are not authorised to do so, told The Athletic last year that missing out on the Champions League caused a £70m deficit in the accounts. You could write this right now: Senior figures at St. James’ Park have confirmed to The Athletic that next season’s revenue will be at least £55m less than the club’s 2025/26 revenue. There really shouldn’t be any surprise or negative impact because our plans should not account for the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, timeEd32 said: Yeah but it’s the most predictable drop ever. This is such a weird paragraph: Senior figures, speaking on the condition of anonymity as they are not authorised to do so, told The Athletic last year that missing out on the Champions League caused a £70m deficit in the accounts. You could write this right now: Senior figures at St. James’ Park have confirmed to The Athletic that next season’s revenue will be at least £55m less than the club’s 2025/26 revenue. There really shouldn’t be any surprise or negative impact because our plans should not account for the Champions League. It wouldn't surprise me if we did count on it it mine. We do have a bit of hubris in us imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, simonsays said: It seems NUFC were actively pushing for the move to SCR. Is now the time to unleash training ground sponsors, and all of the other spurious agreements that the big 6 already have in place? I'm not holding my breath.. not seen much so far to suggest we're Man City 2.0 in terms of investment and trying to push the rules. That said we have done well with some of the commercial side to maximise that revenue - SELA, Adidas, Noon etc., so I'd expect rather than hope that we'd have at least industry-standard levels of commercial agreements ready to go when space opens up from a legislative perspective. Regardless, I'm just happy we're not in Ashley's portfolio any more, we were incredibly hard to buy whilst he was the owner. With the Saudis at least we know they'll sell if it makes sense financially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 12 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It wouldn't surprise me if we did count on it it mine. We do have a bit of hubris in us imo. I think we did that under Staveley tbh, that was ultimately why she left when it backfired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 9 hours ago, macphisto said: I see Chelsea have recorded a record loss of £342 million under UEFA rules. I'm sure they'll be punished accordingly..... No additional punishment for this €407m loss. UEFA's settlement agreement last summer allowed it as long as it matched Chelsea's pre-approved business plan projections—which sources confirm it did. They've already paid a €31m fine for prior breaches (with conditional extras possible if future targets missed). Premier League PSR was cleared too. They'll "get away with it" this time via the deal Via gronk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Why don't we just cut a deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 9 hours ago, macphisto said: I see Chelsea have recorded a record loss of £342 million under UEFA rules. I'm sure they'll be punished accordingly..... £50 fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 21/02/2026 at 15:26, Turnbull2000 said: Anyone who has expectations of us qualifying for the CL every season is a bit of a tit. We're miles off the budgets of the superleague six, sitting 8th in terms of salary budget, and closer to West Ham than Arse, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Man Utd. Even finishing 6th regularly is over-performing. Expectation is one thing - necessity is another. Getting in the CL just helps us tread water against the top six and to slowly increase the revenue of our commercial deals. With every year not in CL we get further behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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