Match Atmosphere

[pedro111]

Aye primal scream was class I'm sure he played it not long ago after we won a few off the belt.

 

I really wish someone could knock up a version of the Blaydon Races that could be sang by the entire crowd in unison pre kick off. Think we're missing a trick there like.

[Chicken Dancer]

Hey Jude used to be better when it was organic - especially away from home.

We don't have an anthem as such, though I do wish we did. Blaydon Races isn't slow enough. (Off topic slightly but I've always found it mad we don't sing more of the typical 'Geordie' folk songs - Coming Home Newcastle etc).

 

Everything that people have correctly put in this thread will likely be echoed on the forums of Liverpool, Man United, Villa, West Ham etc. It's not exclusive to Newcastle but more of a reflection of how the game has changed. The Premier League is the shining jewel of domestic football across the globe, so therefore you have an influx of these YouTube types as well as overseas fans getting tickets for games. I can't say I have any problem with anybody getting a ticket as long as the money goes into the club. As someone who packed in when Benitez and then has (very luckily) been able to access a season ticket again, I do feel we lost a huge chunk of our vocal fans in 2019. I'm also not going to pretend it was absolutely bouncing every game back then either, because it just wasn't. I'm not old enough to remember the Keegan days but from what me Dad tells me it was special - but English football was nowhere near as global then as it is now.

 

When St James' gets going I firmly believe there's no better place in England - those of us who were lucky to be at the PSG game will be talking about that with our grandchildren. Just getting it going is the difficult part now.

 

As someone with a season ticket I tread carefully here without wanting to upset those who miss out - but I believe the ballots are the fairest way to distribute tickets. I also believe ballots have a detrimental effect on atmosphere due to being plonked anywhere in the stadium. Loads of my mates who I'd class as vocal fans are often seated in areas that have no intention to sing. I was sat in Milburn L7 for Dortmund in the Champions League and though that atmosphere in general was nowt like PSG, that part of the stadium felt like a completely different ground. You felt almost detached from the lower bowl. But post-takeover 21/22 and the entire of 22/23 was 100% better than it was last season and this. Is it the ballot system? Is it expectation? Probably a combination of both.

 

I never thought I'd say this but I think I am starting to sway more towards moving, but the design has to be right. You can then get like-minded people sitting in designated areas without having to ask people to move seats - which frankly will never happen, as is their right - at St James'.

 

It may be rose-tinted specs from me, but as a late teen I absolutely loved the L7 singing section back in the day. Atmosphere seemed so much better even when we weren't consistently getting full houses.

[Paully]

I didn't think it was bad at all for a 7.30pm mid January kick-off mind - shame Saturday is the shitty 12.30pm slot - everyone needs to go to the Garter for 9am!

 

 

Edited yesterday at 15:14 by Paully

[Geogaddi]

Already cringing at the thought of being told to sit down by a load of miserable fuckers at Wembley again like two years ago.

[Interpolic]

Was in disbelief when the DJ played Everyday Is Like Sunday at HT on Sunday I'm sure I've heard it in the ground before but that was a great way to make a dreary atmosphere even drearier. Just play bangers, man. 

[Groundhog63]

2 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

Was in disbelief when the DJ played Everyday Is Like Sunday at HT on Sunday I'm sure I've heard it in the ground before but that was a great way to make a dreary atmosphere even drearier. Just play bangers, man. 

 

Been done before tho

 

 

 

[Doctor Zaius]

15 hours ago, Interpolic said:

To the wanker in the platinum club who had a go at me for CLAPPING TOO LOUD, you are a CUNT and I hope you end up destitute so you can't bring your ridiculous fucking attitude into SJP ever again. 

 

Overall thought it was a canny atmosphere tonight relative to a lot of recent games  

 

Having a go at someone for clapping 'too loud' at a football match is truly beyond belief like.

 

I was going to say, where do these people think they are? The Theatre Royal? But I don't even think someone would have a pop at you there for clapping too loud for fucks sake. 

[Scoreboard82]

Seem to be in the minority but I thought the atmosphere was good last night. I'm Leazes/Milburn corner. Bromley game was embarrassingly flat though. It's like we were playing lower league opposition so turn up and wait for the win without being bothered to encourage the team whatsoever. 

[bobbydazzla]

5 hours ago, Interpolic said:

Was in disbelief when the DJ played Everyday Is Like Sunday at HT on Sunday I'm sure I've heard it in the ground before but that was a great way to make a dreary atmosphere even drearier. Just play bangers, man. 

He played a couple of other depressing tunes at Bromley HT too, struggling to remember what they were but at the time I recall thinking that DJ Onedek definitely wasn’t feeling in the mood for a party 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 19:55 by bobbydazzla

[mattypnufc]

6 hours ago, Geogaddi said:

Already cringing at the thought of being told to sit down by a load of miserable fuckers at Wembley again like two years ago.

I had to actually intervene with two 55+ blokes having a go at some lad (late teens) and his dad for standing at Wembley. Told them to calm the fuck down and act their age and let people enjoy the occasion. Turned out they were in the wrong seats anyway. Bellends. 

[mattypnufc]

45 minutes ago, Scoreboard82 said:

Seem to be in the minority but I thought the atmosphere was good last night. I'm Leazes/Milburn corner. Bromley game was embarrassingly flat though. It's like we were playing lower league opposition so turn up and wait for the win without being bothered to encourage the team whatsoever. 

Didn’t help watching Longstaff plod around doing fuck all mind. 

[Heron]

9 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

What do you consider making an atmosphere though… just singing? I think about this a lot. I would like more sustained chants but I think our fans do get involved with making noise and reacting to events. We just can’t keep songs going around the ground like we can in the corner. 
 

There are plenty of people who want to make a good atmosphere. 
 

FWIW I thought the Leazes was pretty good, maybe because of all those tickets returned near the away fans. 
 

I consider 3 or 4 decent songs a half to be a good result outside of the corner. 

 

 

 

For me I'd say more like 8 a half is what it should be. Singing for 90minutes is often ineffective because it just becomes a long drone of noise, a bit like when we played in the CL and away fans just banged a drum all game relentlessly. It's better to have some spontanaity for me.

 

But last night from where I was stood I genuinely didn't see any other part of the ground starting anything, this is what I mean about the Strawberry Corner school chamber. It seems the rest of the ground is dead when in reality it probably isn't. Away fans think the stadium is silent but it's not.

 

I quite like seeing flags, flares, etc. TBH but you just don't get that in an English game.

 

There just didn't seem to be much excitement last night though, even in The Corner. I genuinely think VAR has killed goal celebrations for most, if not all, too.

[Danh1]

9 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:

 

Was class. Nostalgic of the Rafa years and the Gallowgate (maybe other parts of the ground too) started to actually belt out the MOVIN ON UP NOW part.

 

Personally not a fan of playing Local Hero at the end either, but aye - Hey Jude before the game is horrible, like. What happened to that opera sort of song we had before Local Hero back in the day? Everyone got on the feet when that started as you knew the teams were in the tunnel. 

Aye I don’t like Local Hero at the end either.

 

They play better music at half time than they do pre or post match - was AC/DC and Sam Fender yday

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 hours ago, Scoreboard82 said:

Seem to be in the minority but I thought the atmosphere was good last night. I'm Leazes/Milburn corner. Bromley game was embarrassingly flat though. It's like we were playing lower league opposition so turn up and wait for the win without being bothered to encourage the team whatsoever. 

I was in the other leazes corner and it was alright there too. People were trying to get things going, just not enough takers to sustain it for any length of time. 

[TheGuv]

Slightly off topic but I was at Arsenal away last week. Great day and night. I had no voice after the game. 
 

I moved behind the goal in the second half as it was a bit flat to the side and all the noise was being generated from there.

 

Me and another random lad kept singing the Blaydon Races and not many were joining in. But we kept doing it and it eventually went around the away support before fizzling out at a high speed. I then start the second verse on my own, the other lad joins in for the chorus (at the correct and much slower speed) and it begins moving around again at this wonderful speed. Only for it to be accelerated to fuck as the whole stand  joins in. It was so glorious yet frustrating. So I do the third verse and it happens again. It was great to know that many actually do want to sing it at a slower speed but the nature of our support just accelerates it (mainly because many don’t know the chorus and want the song to finish quickly. It’s the same with “who’s that team we call United”. Sing the words they know loudly and then just accelerate the bit they don’t know. And hey Presto - we can’t even sing that anymore).

 

However, my point is two fold.

 

1 - you just have to have to get likeminded fans together (easier said than done in the present climate). But how many times do we have to say it? I’d love a singing section in a part of the ground people generally don’t want to be. Leazes Level 4/and or 7 is a perfect example. You want to sing? Move there. I guarantee plenty of those in the SC wouldn’t dare move. They love the easy access to the corner and their view. Call their bluff.

 

2 - our fans genuinely need educating on our songs and how to sing them. It’s painful. But there’s too many “soopa fans” that would be disgusted at the notion that they don’t know the correct words, speed or action to actually create and SUSTAIN an atmosphere. 
 

My wrist actually had a small cut and was bleeding for my incessant clapping in between every “United” instead of shouting Toon. Yes, I’ll blow on my own trumpet - It actually had an effect for a small portion of fans surrounding me. They also started doing it after a while. It just shows how mentality can shift over a small amount of time. Imagine a longer and sustained amount of time with a larger group?

 

Perhaps it needs those like minded fans to drive this home in a new section. (How does the section happen? It has to be sustained pressure via the correct channels. I have tried before but it fell on deaf ears).  Maybe bring the butcher coats back for all I know and have specific known groups of chanters dotted all around the area to make sure it’s done right. And you do it game after game after game after game. Until the osmosis actually seeps in. However it needs to be a concerted effort and those leaders/chanters need to be in agreement. I know BNWA attempted this but it quickly fizzled out after one or two ground marches. Fundamentally it needs to happen in the ground.
 

Maybe I’m just of a bygone era (I’m 31 😂) - but I do genuinely think it can change. But the Club needs to listen and action it. 
 

I’m a broken record on this and I can’t even get in the ground anymore myself. 1 game all season courtesy of the ballot 👍🏻

Unfortunately, the only people perhaps able to pressurise the club into implementing this change are Wor Flags but they do enough as it is. And would the club even listen? Probably not. 

Ah well, sorry for the rant as usual 
 

 

[Whitley mag]

4 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

Slightly off topic but I was at Arsenal away last week. Great day and night. I had no voice after the game. 
 

I moved behind the goal in the second half as it was a bit flat to the side and all the noise was being generated from there.

 

Me and another random lad kept singing the Blaydon Races and not many were joining in. But we kept doing it and it eventually went around the away support before fizzling out at a high speed. I then start the second verse on my own, the other lad joins in for the chorus (at the correct and much slower speed) and it begins moving around again at this wonderful speed. Only for it to be accelerated to fuck as the whole stand  joins in. It was so glorious yet frustrating. So I do the third verse and it happens again. It was great to know that many actually do want to sing it at a slower speed but the nature of our support just accelerates it (mainly because many don’t know the chorus and want the song to finish quickly. It’s the same with “who’s that team we call United”. Sing the words they know loudly and then just accelerate the bit they don’t know. And hey Presto - we can’t even sing that anymore).

 

However, my point is two fold.

 

1 - you just have to have to get likeminded fans together (easier said than done in the present climate). But how many times do we have to say it? I’d love a singing section in a part of the ground people generally don’t want to be. Leazes Level 4/and or 7 is a perfect example. You want to sing? Move there. I guarantee plenty of those in the SC wouldn’t dare move. They love the easy access to the corner and their view. Call their bluff.

 

2 - our fans genuinely need educating on our songs and how to sing them. It’s painful. But there’s too many “soopa fans” that would be disgusted at the notion that they don’t know the correct words, speed or action to actually create and SUSTAIN an atmosphere. 
 

My wrist actually had a small cut and was bleeding for my incessant clapping in between every “United” instead of shouting Toon. Yes, I’ll blow on my own trumpet - It actually had an effect for a small portion of fans surrounding me. They also started doing it after a while. It just shows how mentality can shift over a small amount of time. Imagine a longer and sustained amount of time with a larger group?

 

Perhaps it needs those like minded fans to drive this home in a new section. (How does the section happen? It has to be sustained pressure via the correct channels. I have tried before but it fell on deaf ears).  Maybe bring the butcher coats back for all I know and have specific known groups of chanters dotted all around the area to make sure it’s done right. And you do it game after game after game after game. Until the osmosis actually seeps in. However it needs to be a concerted effort and those leaders/chanters need to be in agreement. I know BNWA attempted this but it quickly fizzled out after one or two ground marches. Fundamentally it needs to happen in the ground.
 

Maybe I’m just of a bygone era (I’m 31 😂) - but I do genuinely think it can change. But the Club needs to listen and action it. 
 

I’m a broken record on this and I can’t even get in the ground anymore myself. 1 game all season courtesy of the ballot 👍🏻

Unfortunately, the only people perhaps able to pressurise the club into implementing this change are Wor Flags but they do enough as it is. And would the club even listen? Probably not. 

Ah well, sorry for the rant as usual 
 

 

Good post would be quite a sight having a few hundred fans in Butchers coats.

 

Some of the old songs like Howay The Lads the slower version, we’ll support you evermore Newcastle Newcastle can get the hairs standing up and really should be easy for the masses to sing at a normal speed.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

The speed of the songs is a massive problem, said it loads of times. Just makes it so much harder to keep them going. 
 

Some kind of Wor Songs people directing things has potential, but don’t know how you set it up. 

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by AyeDubbleYoo

[Danh1]

Whilst we’re having a whinge about atmosphere, there’s nothing worse than people shouting “TOON” after “UNITED”. Sounds utter shit.

[Paully]

12 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Whilst we’re having a whinge about atmosphere, there’s nothing worse than people shouting “TOON” after “UNITED”. Sounds utter shit.

 

Horrendous - as TheGuv said, severely hard clapping inbetween the YAAANNNNIIITEDS!

[jack j]

45 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The speed of the songs is a massive problem, said it loads of times. Just makes it so much harder to keep them going. 
 

Some kind of Wor Songs people directing things has potential, but don’t know how you set it up. 

 

 

 

 

Wor flags seem to be the ones who could sort something like this. Got quite abit of sway with the fans and are popular all round.

The old level 7 singing section wasn't seen favourably from most the pensioners in other parts of the ground..

[LFEE]

18 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Whilst we’re having a whinge about atmosphere, there’s nothing worse than people shouting “TOON” after “UNITED”. Sounds utter shit.

 

5 minutes ago, Paully said:

 

Horrendous - as TheGuv said, severely hard clapping inbetween the YAAANNNNIIITEDS!

You can’t whinge about lack of atmosphere then start adding caveats when people create one… stop being so precious 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Is it meant to be ‘united > clap’? Never knew that. 

[PRL]

11 hours ago, TheGuv said:

Slightly off topic but I was at Arsenal away last week. Great day and night. I had no voice after the game. 
 

I moved behind the goal in the second half as it was a bit flat to the side and all the noise was being generated from there.

 

Me and another random lad kept singing the Blaydon Races and not many were joining in. But we kept doing it and it eventually went around the away support before fizzling out at a high speed. I then start the second verse on my own, the other lad joins in for the chorus (at the correct and much slower speed) and it begins moving around again at this wonderful speed. Only for it to be accelerated to fuck as the whole stand  joins in. It was so glorious yet frustrating. So I do the third verse and it happens again. It was great to know that many actually do want to sing it at a slower speed but the nature of our support just accelerates it (mainly because many don’t know the chorus and want the song to finish quickly. It’s the same with “who’s that team we call United”. Sing the words they know loudly and then just accelerate the bit they don’t know. And hey Presto - we can’t even sing that anymore).

 

However, my point is two fold.

 

1 - you just have to have to get likeminded fans together (easier said than done in the present climate). But how many times do we have to say it? I’d love a singing section in a part of the ground people generally don’t want to be. Leazes Level 4/and or 7 is a perfect example. You want to sing? Move there. I guarantee plenty of those in the SC wouldn’t dare move. They love the easy access to the corner and their view. Call their bluff.

 

2 - our fans genuinely need educating on our songs and how to sing them. It’s painful. But there’s too many “soopa fans” that would be disgusted at the notion that they don’t know the correct words, speed or action to actually create and SUSTAIN an atmosphere. 
 

My wrist actually had a small cut and was bleeding for my incessant clapping in between every “United” instead of shouting Toon. Yes, I’ll blow on my own trumpet - It actually had an effect for a small portion of fans surrounding me. They also started doing it after a while. It just shows how mentality can shift over a small amount of time. Imagine a longer and sustained amount of time with a larger group?

 

Perhaps it needs those like minded fans to drive this home in a new section. (How does the section happen? It has to be sustained pressure via the correct channels. I have tried before but it fell on deaf ears).  Maybe bring the butcher coats back for all I know and have specific known groups of chanters dotted all around the area to make sure it’s done right. And you do it game after game after game after game. Until the osmosis actually seeps in. However it needs to be a concerted effort and those leaders/chanters need to be in agreement. I know BNWA attempted this but it quickly fizzled out after one or two ground marches. Fundamentally it needs to happen in the ground.
 

Maybe I’m just of a bygone era (I’m 31 😂) - but I do genuinely think it can change. But the Club needs to listen and action it. 
 

I’m a broken record on this and I can’t even get in the ground anymore myself. 1 game all season courtesy of the ballot 👍🏻

Unfortunately, the only people perhaps able to pressurise the club into implementing this change are Wor Flags but they do enough as it is. And would the club even listen? Probably not. 

Ah well, sorry for the rant as usual 
 

 

You did a stellar job getting through every verse in the pub after too. No wonder your throat was fucked! Definitely need a few more of you dotted about with that level of commitment to really getting the atmosphere going and maintained. 

[Chicken Dancer]

The 'toon' is rank like and I won't hear otherwise  .

 

We will be having this conversation in 10 years even if we move stadium. The match going fan has just changed and sadly nothing we can do about it. You can try to combat it by having more than 1 designating 'singing' section but overall it's just the way football is now. Most fans can't be arsed unless it's a big game. Look at the amount who fuck off at 35/85 minutes. Getting a pissy pint is more important to most now. Sad but true.

[LFEE]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is it meant to be ‘united > clap’? Never knew that. 

United… clap clap clap