Checko Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) On 04/11/2023 at 11:23, Hanshithispantz said: I get what you're saying but I just don't think criminal cases fit at all like. For one, in actual criminal cases there's generally a limit to the scope of investigation isn't there? Like of someone was found to have burgled 7 ASDAs and was charged, would the police then sift through his life just to find out if he'd burgled more? He lived in Leeds for a couple of years, maybe they should run an intense investigation of burgleries down there during his time spent? Maybe he also killed someone? He's a wrongun after all. Expand Tbf I only said it was a 'bit like', it wasn't meant to be an exact comparison of the offences and international legal systems - I've just confused things more than anything The point of the analogy was just to emphasise that the FA is apparently looking into potential new offences in the UK, not the same ones that have already been looked at, so it's not double jeopardy, and the fact that he's already being punished for similar offences in Italy doesn't mean he automatically shouldn't get further punishment for new offences in the Uk. Just as, if you commit driving offences in Italy and then move to England and commit driving offences in England, they're separate offences and can be looked at and punished separately, which is why the FA could be looking into things. The analogy's not meant to be any deeper than that! Re: your point on the police - Yeah I think there needs to be some good reason for the FA to open an investigation. They shouldn't just be snooping on people willy nilly. That said wasn't part of his evidence that betting on his own team to win became almost a superstition/compulsion? If that's true then it seems a realistic possibility he might have bet on Newcastle while he was here. Probably enough to warrant at least making some enquiries. Edited November 4, 2023 by Checko grammar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Currently in NCL airport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 His misdemeanors have hurt us by having one less player available when we are so desperate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Of course. All the more reason for him to knuckle down in training and keep fit, get stronger, learn every bit of tactical work he can from our coaching staff and learn English even more. He needs to look like his leader / captain self he was previously to joining us when he’s back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Would be nice if he made a gesture along the lines of giving the club an extra years option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 He should be moving leazes terrace himself, brick by brick to allow for expansion. That would be right gesture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Just say he's Sammy Tony Lee, a new youth prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 11:10, TheGuv said: Currently in NCL airport Expand Imagine all the lads not on international duty have been given some time to get away and recharge the batteries. Obviously he has had much/any physical exertion, but mentally he probably needs some time away from everything. Just for fuck sake someone make sure there are no betting apps on his phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 12:57, madras said: Would be nice if he made a gesture along the lines of giving the club an extra years option. Expand Should almost be a given that his agent has offered that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 14:21, sushimonster85 said: Imagine all the lads not on international duty have been given some time to get away and recharge the batteries. Obviously he has had much/any physical exertion, but mentally he probably needs some time away from everything. Just for fuck sake someone make sure there are no betting apps on his phone. Expand Off to Vegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 11:10, TheGuv said: Currently in NCL airport Expand Doesn’t he have to visit Italy weekly for his gambling addicts group? Pretty sure I read that (thinking at the time that won’t help him settle here). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 15:02, LFEE said: Doesn’t he have to visit Italy weekly for his gambling addicts group? Pretty sure I read that (thinking at the time that won’t help him settle here). Expand He was with another Italian bloke. So perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Has he actually apologized? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 16:48, Away Toon said: Has he actually apologized? Expand Just to AC Milan for still being available and not suspended for the first game in the CL when we played them ? (I'm not serious, that's a joke). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 12:53, Kanji said: Of course. All the more reason for him to knuckle down in training and keep fit, get stronger, learn every bit of tactical work he can from our coaching staff and learn English even more. He needs to look like his leader / captain self he was previously to joining us when he’s back. Expand He does. Let's hope he agrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 14:24, geordie_b said: Should almost be a given that his agent has offered that Expand Did they ? Didn't know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 But seriously- has he apologised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 16:48, Away Toon said: Has he actually apologized? Expand On 13/11/2023 at 08:51, The College Dropout said: But seriously- has he apologised? Expand I'm sure he has to the club and Howe etc. I don't particularly feel the need for a PR driven open letter to us fans but I wouldn't be surprised if one pops up at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 13/11/2023 at 09:05, Hhtoon said: I'm sure he has to the club and Howe etc. I don't particularly feel the need for a PR driven open letter to us fans but I wouldn't be surprised if one pops up at some point. Expand Why would it be PR driven and not from his heart? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) On 13/11/2023 at 09:10, The College Dropout said: Why would it be PR driven and not from his heart? Expand His heart doesn’t fancy the odds that we’d accept his apology! Edited November 13, 2023 by greydos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I don’t really feel the need for him to publicly apologise. Do the porridge, keep your head down and come back the best CM in Europe. That’s all I ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Can we not just put a mask on him and call him "Mr Italy" or something? Pretty sure that's been done before somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 16:48, Away Toon said: Has he actually apologized? Expand Told Howe to go fuck himself I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 13/11/2023 at 09:31, Stal said: Can we not just put a mask on him and call him "Mr Italy" or something? Pretty sure that's been done before somewhere. Expand Roy of the Rovers, February 1971, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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