Viana Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: I still have concerns about our attacking ability and breaking teams down when they park the bus, which I would expect more of this season. Barnes will help with that with his goals and ability from distance but I’m not sure how much of an attacking threat Tonali will offer in the circumstances described above, so I would have hoped for another to help unlock teams who would play down the right. That’s where Tonali come in. A half way point between Longstaff’s physicality and. Bruno’s technique meaning we aren’t forced to rely on him creating everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) There's quite a bit of data that supports that we were pretty creative last year but wasteful. We were top of the charts, there or thereabouts, for hitting the woodwork & big chances missed last season and our chances created & xG were consistently strong too. We relied more on set piece opportunities than some of the other top sides but that's a very legitimate weapon for tight games if you don't have Dan Burn as your primary target. Edited August 11, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Just had a thought, what if Todibo has always been our first choice CB signing and that's why OGC Nice were one of the teams invited to play at the Sela Cup. And the real reason we didn't play against Nice is so Howe/Tindall could scout him effectively without distraction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: I still have concerns about our attacking ability and breaking teams down when they park the bus, which I would expect more of this season. Barnes will help with that with his goals and ability from distance but I’m not sure how much of an attacking threat Tonali will offer in the circumstances described above, so I would have hoped for another to help unlock teams who would play down the right. Suppose you look at the leicester game at home when we seemed to have 90% possession but ran out of ideas the last 20mins. However even in that game we hit the woodwork 3 times which suggests we don't take as many chances when they come compared to the top 6 maybe. I think Barnes is a very important signing as in games like that he will be more direct rather than switching play continuously from right to left Edited August 11, 2023 by Pancrate1892 Missing word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The Leicester game was a completely freak result on the balance of everything. Games like Leeds at home is probably a better example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Suppose you look at the leicester game at home when we seemed to have 90% possession but ran out of ideas the last 20mins. However even in that game we hit the woodwork 3 times which suggests we don't take as many chances when they come compared to the top 6 maybe. I think Barnes is a very important signing as in games like that he will be more direct rather than switching play continuously from right to left I think we hit the woodwork more than anyone else else last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I think both things are true. Adding better finishers like Barnes will help us a lot but I do think our wingers are somewhat lacking in terms of that final ball. I think when we do finally sign a RW it'll be someone who's more of a left footed AM than a Diaby type. Guler would have been perfect for it. Also think we'd have gone back in for Raphinha if Barca had got Guler or Messi. Going into the window I'd have said RW and LB were our biggest weaknesses. However, it's clear that if we can't get our primary targets then we don't go very far down the list. Maybe they think this time next year we'll be able to buy an Alphonso Davies or Theo Hernandez for LB and don't want to settle for a small upgrade now. Same for the RW spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Shak said: I think both things are true. Adding better finishers like Barnes will help us a lot but I do think our wingers are somewhat lacking in terms of that final ball. I think when we do finally sign a RW it'll be someone who's more of a left footed AM than a Diaby type. Guler would have been perfect for it. Also think we'd have gone back in for Raphinha if Barca had got Guler or Messi. Going into the window I'd have said RW and LB were our biggest weaknesses. However, it's clear that if we can't get our primary targets then we don't go very far down the list. Maybe they think this time next year we'll be able to buy an Alphonso Davies or Theo Hernandez for LB and don't want to settle for a small upgrade now. Same for the RW spot. That's the way we set up with Trippier (and with Livramento as understudy) - the right fullback is essentially our right-footed "crossing" winger. Hell even Murphy was used in that role the last weekend. Our preferred right-sided forward would then be someone operating in the half-space, who can come inside and get a shot off. And so far, Miggy has been playing that role quite effectively. Sides have cottoned on to his extreme left-footedness though, so someone with more guile, and can play with both feet would be a better replacement for him. I suspect our earlier pursuit of Diaby came about when the Howe "system" for the club hadn't yet been set in stone, and we've since moved on from him as a target, Lord knows who we have in mind as a fitting replacement/cover for Miggy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I mean, Raphinha and Guler would both have been ideal. Would have loved Olise from Palace for it too but he seems like he's off to die at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, madras said: I think we hit the woodwork more than anyone else else last season. Aye. Twice at home to Liverpool and arsenal I can remember as well. We had our fair share of VAR ruled out goals too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Pancrate1892 said: Aye. Twice at home to Liverpool and arsenal I can remember as well. We had our fair share of VAR ruled out goals too 11 times in total and yes, it was the most. https://www.premierleague.com/news/2910511 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, madras said: 11 times in total and yes, it was the most. https://www.premierleague.com/news/2910511 If those goals had gone in, do we know how it would have affected our league position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Lish007 said: If those goals had gone in, do we know how it would have affected our league position? that figure was from November - we hit the woodwork 26 times in the end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, Toontimes said: that figure was from November - we hit the woodwork 26 times in the end! 25 of them were Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The only fixtures we looked absolutely clueless were the ones minus Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: 25 of them were Murphy Werent 2 of them big joe in the space of 25 milliseconds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Will he play again or will he not! Boom boom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 hours ago, khay said: The truth being you keep buying the size you want to be not the size you are. That’s what I’m doing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Gvadiol/Laporte off the bench vs. Lascelles/Dummett is depressing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Hot Since 1882 said: Gvadiol/Laporte off the bench vs. Lascelles/Dummett is depressing Lascelles is tops man, stop putting him down, I'd like to see one of those foreign types punch football into an average player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said: Gvadiol/Laporte off the bench vs. Lascelles/Dummett is depressing Lascelles/Murphy now bruh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said: Gvadiol/Laporte off the bench vs. Lascelles/Dummett is depressing 15 years of solid investment throughout an entire football club will produce some remarkable contrasts to clubs run like a burger van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Obviously the window has gone kinda mad this last 48 hours. What are we expecting regarding the rest of the window for ourselves? Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Obviously the window has gone kinda mad this last 48 hours. What are we expecting regarding the rest of the window for ourselves? Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts. I think we’ll get 1 more player in. That will either be a CB, or a LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now