LFEE Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Maybe not title rival. But I’d think Howe should get us back into the top 4. As it stands I don’t expect top 4 again. Top 5… Top 5 this season 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Top 5… Top 5 this season 🙂 Depends on coefficient for the season isn’t it? Edited August 13, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Zero chance we improve on Almiron at RW this window. Eddie loves him, quite rightly so. I love him too. Chiesa can play RW. Not a bad one to have on the bench. Loan to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 hours ago, buzza said: I would rather a centre back as cover for Schar, I think tripps and livramento, when up to speed, can cover both flanks Surely Burn can cover at CB though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Surely Burn can cover at CB though? He can, but we need a right footed one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Surely Burn can cover at CB though? On the left of the pairing, yes. Don’t think he’d play particularly well on the right hand side though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 The Andersen talk has been bubbling away in the back ground. Think this still has legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Depends on coefficient for the season isn’t it? Which you think is in the bag with Man City & West Ham winning both finals. I’ll be honest I’m no expert on how it works and you are correct it is based on coefficient but from what I’ve heard it’s practically guaranteed 🤷♂️ Edited August 13, 2023 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Any chance we get rid of Hendrick and Fraser this window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, rebelrouser said: Any chance we get rid of Hendrick and Fraser this window? Who would want them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Difficult to predict what the final arrival will be. They operate on an "if there's a deal to be done" sorta basis so it honestly wouldn't surprise me that much if another CM randomly turned up, for instance. That's probably not likely obviously, but their long-termist approach is why we got Gordon in January and why we got Livramento before an orthodox LB. Personal preference would be a CB but it's exciting going into the rest of the window with the pressure more-or-less off, and with the squad in pretty formidable nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Which you think is in the bag with Man City & West Ham winning both finals. I’ll be honest I’m no expert on how it works and you are correct it is based on coefficient but from what I’ve heard it’s practically guaranteed 🤷♂️ I believe it’s based on THIS years standalone coefficient. So the top 2 performing nations in Europe this season get an extra CL place next season. Edited August 13, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I believe it’s based on THIS years standalone coefficient. So the top 2 performing nations in Europe this season get an extra CL place next season. Interesting. Not going to disagree as I don’t know for sure but surely a bit odd as Rangers are benefiting from possible seeding in this years ECL if they qualify based on their final appearance a few years ago 🙂 If it is how you say then it’s up to us to get as far as we can (along with the other English teams obviously which you’d like to think they will?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I believe it’s based on THIS years standalone coefficient. So the top 2 performing nations in Europe this season get an extra CL place next season. it is. But is fairly likely we get that spot, all the same. “But the UEFA Champions League has a new format for the 2024/25 season, with an expanded 36 participating teams in a “Swiss league” format. This also allows for an additional place to be each allocated to two countries whose clubs collectively performed the best in UEFA competitions the season before. So, if the Premier League clubs provide one of the top two performances for a nation in the 2023/24 UCL, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference League the team finishing fifth this season will earn a UCL spot. Last season, Manchester City won the Champions League while West Ham United claimed the UECL with a 2-1 victory over Fiorentina. Indeed, in five of the past six seasons – and seven of the past 11 – the Premier League would have merited this extra spot. We will likely only know when that fifth spot will come into play for the UCL towards the end of the season, when the geographical spread of the participating clubs in the latter stages UEFA competitions is known.” https://www.premierleague.com/news/3620004 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Who would want them? Celtic linked with Fraser. Could see that happening on a free possibly or loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: it is. But is fairly likely we get that spot, all the same. “But the UEFA Champions League has a new format for the 2024/25 season, with an expanded 36 participating teams in a “Swiss league” format. This also allows for an additional place to be each allocated to two countries whose clubs collectively performed the best in UEFA competitions the season before. So, if the Premier League clubs provide one of the top two performances for a nation in the 2023/24 UCL, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference League the team finishing fifth this season will earn a UCL spot. Last season, Manchester City won the Champions League while West Ham United claimed the UECL with a 2-1 victory over Fiorentina. Indeed, in five of the past six seasons – and seven of the past 11 – the Premier League would have merited this extra spot. We will likely only know when that fifth spot will come into play for the UCL towards the end of the season, when the geographical spread of the participating clubs in the latter stages UEFA competitions is known.” https://www.premierleague.com/news/3620004 Thanks for clarifying 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: it is. But is fairly likely we get that spot, all the same. “But the UEFA Champions League has a new format for the 2024/25 season, with an expanded 36 participating teams in a “Swiss league” format. This also allows for an additional place to be each allocated to two countries whose clubs collectively performed the best in UEFA competitions the season before. So, if the Premier League clubs provide one of the top two performances for a nation in the 2023/24 UCL, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference League the team finishing fifth this season will earn a UCL spot. Last season, Manchester City won the Champions League while West Ham United claimed the UECL with a 2-1 victory over Fiorentina. Indeed, in five of the past six seasons – and seven of the past 11 – the Premier League would have merited this extra spot. We will likely only know when that fifth spot will come into play for the UCL towards the end of the season, when the geographical spread of the participating clubs in the latter stages UEFA competitions is known.” https://www.premierleague.com/news/3620004 Aye. But for now I would consider it the top 4. If 5th is CL that’s a bonus. While more than likely it’s not a given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Interesting. Not going to disagree as I don’t know for sure but surely a bit odd as Rangers are benefiting from possible seeding in this years ECL if they qualify based on their final appearance a few years ago 🙂 If it is how you say then it’s up to us to get as far as we can (along with the other English teams obviously which you’d like to think they will?). You're right that it's a departure from the standard 5 year rolling system from previous years which dictates not only league ranking (and how many places they get) but also each team's coefficient score. It's an oddity in this sense because it is based exclusively off the country's performance during the season in play to determine these two bonus places. Not a fan personally as it means that you don't really know whether that place will exist until late in the season (kind of how Fair Play places in the Intertoto used to appear randomly at the end of the season). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) We are arguably one of the weakest links in Europe for the coefficient. A bad draw and we could feasibly finish 4th in the CL. BEing in pot 4. West Ham being in Europa is an added bonus. Edited August 13, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Toonjam88 said: We are a right centre half, left back and another attacking midfielder/right winger away from being a genuine title rival for me I actually agree, as crazy as that sounds. We have two very strong 11’s with a few good extras like Murphy and Miley. Chiesa and then Almiron, great impact sub, like Barnes Schar to Lascelles drop off slightly too big, so a Tapsoba or Todibo to bridge the gap. Tierney to play LB with Targett back up. It actually completes a very solid even title challenging squad. Let Manquillo, Krafth, Hayden, Hendrick and Fraser leave. Next season the first window splurge drops off so we can address the aging Wilson. It really feels closer than ever to a spectacular squad which is weird as with FFP two years is impossible from the position we were in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 This extra spot thing seems slightly flawed, surely whoever gets that extra spot (Especially if its a league like the Premier League or LaLiga) will likely get it again the year after, as they have better odds in getting further in the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, 54 said: This extra spot thing seems slightly flawed, surely whoever gets that extra spot (Especially if its a league like the Premier League or LaLiga) will likely get it again the year after, as they have better odds in getting further in the tournament. Aye but the team who get the final European spot could be weak as fuck, and bring the average down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Oh, Fraser to Celtic. Please be true. For just a few million FFP wiggle room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 If Fraser goes it will be for a nominal fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: If Fraser goes it will be for a nominal fee Gets rid of his £70kpw wage though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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