STM Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, Matt1892 said: Sad to see the club scrambling around in such a desperate manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Sad to see the club scrambling around in such a desperate manner. Can't decide if serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, madras said: Can't decide if serious Oh he is. He's deadly serious, shockingly enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Sad to see the club scrambling around in such a desperate manner. This. Worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) We’ve obviously needed to sell, which should never be the case, but hopefullly incoming Mamardashvili & Kvaratskhelia, thank you please! Edited June 28, 2024 by Geordie Boyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: That’s literally the worst deal ever. I hope it's not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, duo said: That’s literally the worst deal ever. I hope it's not true. It’s not the worst deal ever but in also not sold on its merits. I’d rather keep Wilson and get DCL on a free in a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Minteh’s real value is probably equivalent to Madueke who went for 28.5m. So it’s a straight swap, you probably overpay for DCL by about 10-12m. That’s the price we may have to take to not breach PSR. I know loads don’t like DCL but Howe clearly does and clearly has a plan for how to use him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, duo said: That’s literally the worst deal ever. I hope it's not true. We'd be trading an untested young winger who's never played for us, for an experienced forward with a demonstrable scoring record in the PL, whilst also - presumably/somehow - alleviating PSR concerns. 'Worst deal ever' feels like a bit of an exaggeration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It’s not the worst deal ever but in also not sold on its merits. I’d rather keep Wilson and get DCL on a free in a year. Swapping a potential star, for an injury prone average striker doesn't sound like a great deal to me. Surely no one can think it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, captainhaircut said: Minteh’s real value is probably equivalent to Madueke who went for 28.5m. So it’s a straight swap, you probably overpay for DCL by about 10-12m. That’s the price we may have to take to not breach PSR. I know loads don’t like DCL but Howe clearly does and clearly has a plan for how to use him. If Lyon did bid £40m we have fair market value established. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, captainhaircut said: Minteh’s real value is probably equivalent to Madueke who went for 28.5m. So it’s a straight swap, you probably overpay for DCL by about 10-12m. That’s the price we may have to take to not breach PSR. I know loads don’t like DCL but Howe clearly does and clearly has a plan for how to use him. How? Madueke has just helped his side qualify for Europe, against all the odds and Minteh had been playing in a massively inferior league. Madueke has played a shit load of football for the England youth teams too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) Brighton interested as well, swap for Pedro please 😂 Edited June 28, 2024 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, duo said: Swapping a potential star, for an injury prone average striker doesn't sound like a great deal to me. Surely no one can think it is? Again I don’t think it’s great no, but I see the logic despite my unease with it. Would much rather sell Minteh elsewhere (if we are indeed binning him) and use the money elsewhere. Again if we are adamant DCL is for us just wait a year and grab him on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: How? Madueke has just helped his side qualify for Europe, against all the odds and Minteh had been playing in a massively inferior league. Madueke has played a shit load of football for the England youth teams too. Minteh just scored in the Champions League mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Just now, Upthemags said: Minteh just scored in the Champions League mate Andrea's Anderson scored at Anfield and Old Trafford, Guivarch won a world cup winners medal, Henning Berg and David May won more medals than Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Yorkie said: We'd be trading an untested young winger who's never played for us, for an experienced forward with a demonstrable scoring record in the PL, whilst also - presumably/somehow - alleviating PSR concerns. 'Worst deal ever' feels like a bit of an exaggeration. My thinking is that we were probably planning to loan him out for another year anyway. Inserting a buy-back clause, if we do that, would be like loaning him to another PL club in Everton, assuming he does well there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 25 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: How? Madueke has just helped his side qualify for Europe, against all the odds and Minteh had been playing in a massively inferior league. Madueke has played a shit load of football for the England youth teams too. I meant Madueke’s price when he moved from PSV to Chelsea. in answer to the other question re Lyon offering 40m for Minteh, surely no one believes that true. Since when do Lyon drop that sort of cash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, captainhaircut said: I meant Madueke’s price when he moved from PSV to Chelsea. in answer to the other question re Lyon offering 40m for Minteh, surely no one believes that true. Since when do Lyon drop that sort of cash? Inflation, everything has gone up including agents fees and wages. Much harder to do a deal now but they woukd be taking a punt that they will at least make a 50% profit on him after a season or two. If the reports are to be believed about our PSR position, I don’t think we have that luxury of waiting to see his value increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 It's not the worst deal, but it's not really a great deal either. We're essentially hoping that DCL can get up and running again where as it seems a lot of clubs are fans of Mintehs potential. Somehow I think we will look back at this and think we should have kept him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, Menace said: It's not the worst deal, but it's not really a great deal either. We're essentially hoping that DCL can get up and running again where as it seems a lot of clubs are fans of Mintehs potential. Somehow I think we will look back at this and think we should have kept him. It’s all kind of relative to how the club progresses though. If you take Chelsea as an example. They pied off De Bruyne and Salah, who’ve gone on to become elite, world-level players. On the face of it, massive errors by Chelsea. But how many trophies did they win anyway? Would those two players have progressed like they did? Obviously we’re not (yet) in the position Chelsea were in, but if we go on to be successful (decide on your own definition of that) and get in a RW who establishes themselves, will we end up being that bothered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Would prefer Minteh for Pedro (Brighton) swap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 N-O in having cake while eating it too shocker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, LFEE said: Would prefer Minteh for Pedro (Brighton) swap. Surely there's no chance they'd do that? They'd certainly value Pedro far higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Surely there's no chance they'd do that? They'd certainly value Pedro far higher. You’re talking to the guy who always felt that ABBA would get back together for one more album. 40 years later it happened 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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