Matt1892 Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 8 hours ago, LFEE said: Surely Brighton are able to spend money than us this window and therefore have greater resources than us? Having the FFP room does not equal having the resources to spend, as a club we will spend up to what we can get away with for FFP where as Brightons whole model is built on signing young players with potential to develop before selling on for a profit. That doesn’t include wage structures due to affordability that Brighton have to work to due to the size of the club. Unless we are going to compare our transfers to Man City, then we shouldn’t be comparing Brightons to ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 1 hour ago, jack j said: You literally said our fans would be happy with them 3 as our first 3 signings Don't think they would when none of them are getting into our starting 11 Hows that mental As I just explained a lot of fans on here myself included were buzzing about minteh and didn’t want him to go and also a lot of fans on here were buzzing at the thought of signing crozier duberry. That’s literal evidence our fans would be happy with those players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 4 hours ago, r0cafella said: Brighton have more FFP headroom than most, that’s without question but it’s extremely unlikely they suddenly lose the plot and outspend the league. No one said outspend the league. I just on this window they have a much bigger scope to buy players than us. If we are restricted to £100m approximately like some have been saying I don’t see it that far fetched they spend more than that this window. If the rules were different then I totally get the point but the rules as they are the reality is Brighton have more resources than us due to lots of big player & coaching sales in last couple of years. Therefore our expectations should be far closer to Brighton’s than Man City’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 19 minutes ago, gdm said: As I just explained a lot of fans on here myself included were buzzing about minteh and didn’t want him to go and also a lot of fans on here were buzzing at the thought of signing crozier duberry. That’s literal evidence our fans would be happy with those players. It’s always exciting having new/existing good young players to come through. Not at the expense of guaranteed first team starters though or, as things stand financially, being able to fill gaps elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 1 minute ago, LFEE said: No one said outspend the league. I just on this window they have a much bigger scope to buy players than us. If we are restricted to £100m approximately like some have been saying I don’t see it that far fetched they spend more than that this window. If the rules were different then I totally get the point but the rules as they are the reality is Brighton have more resources than us due to lots of big player & coaching sales in last couple of years. Therefore our expectations should be far closer to Brighton’s than Man City’s. I don’t think Brighton’s owner is willing to spend 100m+ net this window. I could be wrong but I don’t see it. All Brighton have more than us is FFP headroom, in every other metric they are behind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I don’t think Brighton’s owner is willing to spend 100m+ net this window. I could be wrong but I don’t see it. All Brighton have more than us is FFP headroom, in every other metric they are behind us. Well we’ll find out when window closes. Brighton owner not daft. I personally feel after quite of lot of sales he’ll know they need at least one season where he reverses the ratio to ensure the quality is high enough to maintain comfortable premier league status and European qualification. Especially with such a young inexperienced manager this season. Out of interest how much they spent so far this window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 11 minutes ago, LFEE said: No one said outspend the league. I just on this window they have a much bigger scope to buy players than us. If we are restricted to £100m approximately like some have been saying I don’t see it that far fetched they spend more than that this window. If the rules were different then I totally get the point but the rules as they are the reality is Brighton have more resources than us due to lots of big player & coaching sales in last couple of years. Therefore our expectations should be far closer to Brighton’s than Man City’s. It is likely that Brighton have more FFP headroom than Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Nucasol said: Didn’t realise our name had been thrown in the mix for Pavlovic. Of course Odd Todd would want to hijack for his 11th central defender. https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/chelsea/chelsea-to-hijack-another-newcastle-united-transfer-target-as-interest-in-ps25m-centre-back-grows-4693658 He's left footed and plays on the left side and so not sure there's anything to this one. More likely to be the other centre back on the team Oumar Solet, who were linked to a lot last summer. He's in the last year of his deal now too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Nucasol said: Kadioglu’s name also mentioned. Sources not so good: https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/07/07/kadioglu-transfer-arsenal-newcastle-scout-player/amp/ Been linked with Newcastle a fair bit going back a few years now, and so maybe he's one that is in the database. If Trippier leaves maybe he's an option we're considering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 13 minutes ago, KaKa said: Been linked with Newcastle a fair bit going back a few years now, and so maybe he's one that is in the database. If Trippier leaves maybe he's an option we're considering. The fact he can play both sides means he ticks the box for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Kadioglu represented by the agency group of Howe and his nephew so he’ll definitely be on the list. We love buying players from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 10 hours ago, LFEE said: Surely Brighton are able to spend money than us this window and therefore have greater resources than us? Lower wage ceiling though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Longest time ever we have had to wait for a proper rumour ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Longest time ever we have had to wait for a proper rumour ? Sold two players and brought two keepers in. That’s our business done for the summer. Roll on January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Haven’t we signed Kelly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 And Hall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 14 hours ago, gdm said: Exactly this. That’s exciting business for Brighton. Half the forum didn’t want Minteh to leave and a load were hyping up this crozier-duberry kid. This place is mental at times What's interesting about Minteh is that we were competing with Brighton for his signature when we signed him. That they are happy to now pay north of £30m for him means they must really rate him, so will be watching to see how he gets on next season. Hopefully not too well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Jinx Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Don't worry about what Brighton are doing. Admire it fine, but they have different objectives. We can't be what they are and be a genuine contender for top 4. Buying to sell and real ambition don't go hand in hand so our remit will be different. The players we sign will be the best that we can go for at a given point in time, we buy young so if the the club does begin to outgrow their use, we can make back a good portion of that transfer fee if not more on occasion. I'm assuming Paul Mitchell's objective will be to get the best value on the pitch that's within our budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Don't worry about what Brighton are doing. Admire it fine, but they have different objectives. We can't be what they are and be a genuine contender for top 4. Buying to sell and real ambition don't go hand in hand so our remit will be different. The players we sign will be the best that we can go for at a given point in time, we buy young so if the the club does begin to outgrow their use, we can make back a good portion of that transfer fee if not more on occasion. I'm assuming Paul Mitchell's objective will be to get the best value on the pitch that's within our budget. Didn't we buy Minteh to sell? All the biggest clubs are good at developing players to sell for PSR reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 Y’all would be apoplectic if we signed three 19 year-old wingers in a window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, Deuce said: Y’all would be apoplectic if we signed three 19 year-old wingers in a window. We signed a 20 year old and an 18 year old albeit on loan last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 26 minutes ago, simonsays said: Didn't we buy Minteh to sell? All the biggest clubs are good at developing players to sell for PSR reasons The only one’s who will ever know that are Howe and Ashworth.. I think they were (Minteh and Kuol) signed with a view to coming back into the fold after gaining more experience and proving good enough. We just happened to end up in a situation where we had to sell, so that narrative suits to make it look under more control. I refuse to believe they risked a hefty punishment on several factors turning in their favour. 1) Minteh’s loan being that successful.. if he’d flopped or not been picked by a coach.. wave goodbye to 30m and 2) the fee being as high as it was.. I think there was probably more of an acceptance that we were going to lose a purple this summer, something we seem to have avoided now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, simonsays said: Didn't we buy Minteh to sell? All the biggest clubs are good at developing players to sell for PSR reasons * Edited July 8, 2024 by Dr Jinx Double post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 8, 2024 Share Posted July 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr Jinx said: Don't worry about what Brighton are doing. Admire it fine, but they have different objectives. We can't be what they are and be a genuine contender for top 4. Buying to sell and real ambition don't go hand in hand so our remit will be different. The players we sign will be the best that we can go for at a given point in time, we buy young so if the the club does begin to outgrow their use, we can make back a good portion of that transfer fee if not more on occasion. I'm assuming Paul Mitchell's objective will be to get the best value on the pitch that's within our budget. If we have to abide by PSR as it is - we absolutely have to buy and sell.... including our very best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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