lovejoy Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 Mbuemo has been Howe’s top target for that position since he came (it was Brennan Johnson but the club didn’t agree). My guess is he’ll be out of reach financially now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Don’t really expect us to be signing first team players at the top of their game from other PL clubs. He’s good though. We tried that in the summer mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We tried that in the summer mind. Yeah, they may go all in, they did with Guehi! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Mbuemo has been Howe’s top target for that position since he came (it was Brennan Johnson but the club didn’t agree). My guess is he’ll be out of reach financially now. What since the takeover?! That's surprising to hear. We could have got Mbeumo for a decent fee back then and Brentford do the whole money ball thing so are willing sellers as long as a fee is agreed on. Wonder why we never went for him before now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: What since the takeover?! That's surprising to hear. We could have got Mbeumo for a decent fee back then and Brentford do the whole money ball thing so are willing sellers as long as a fee is agreed on. Wonder why we never went for him before now. I was literally about to post requesting your feedback on this Edited October 24, 2024 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 I don’t think we went for RW signings at all until last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 16 minutes ago, 80 said: I was literally about to post requesting your feedback on this It's pretty baffling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 31 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Mbuemo has been Howe’s top target for that position since he came (it was Brennan Johnson but the club didn’t agree). My guess is he’ll be out of reach financially now. Really? I think £60-65m gets it done TBH, so not out of our reach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: I know he’s pretty much tier one for London sides, not sure that would mean he would know Guehi was our only target. It's pretty much common knowledge anyway. Why else would we have kept increasing our bids to daft levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's pretty baffling I mean, we have to take the source for what it's worth, but it's one of the reasons I'm reluctant to lay blame at Eddie's door without clearer evidence. There could be all kinds of things underlying the moves we have and haven't made (or heard about) e.g. club to club relationships, other transfer committee members like Ashworth, maybe PIF sticking their oar in... We're trying to interpret things in a fog, a lot of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 54 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Don’t really expect us to be signing first team players at the top of their game from other PL clubs. He’s good though. They’d charge an absolute fortune to get him in Jan too but he would be ideal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, lovejoy said: Mbuemo has been Howe’s top target for that position since he came (it was Brennan Johnson but the club didn’t agree). My guess is he’ll be out of reach financially now. Is there a source for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 From a pure football/performance perspective Mbuemo would be great. Taking a more holistic view of him as a target, we'd be buying him at peak value, at an age where his value is most likely only going to decrease, and on top of that require a level of investment that will prohibit us from adding "oven ready ()" players to other positions for at least both January and summer transfer windows. Not sure we are in a position to do that unless we sell one of our key players considering that we know we'll need significant investment for center back position, and also need to get replacements for Wilson and Trippier as back-ups/prospects for Isak and Livramento. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, lovejoy said: (it was Brennan Johnson but the club didn’t agree). Fools. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 25 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Is there a source for that? First I'm hearing of it. Considering Howe would have had the almost unquestioned backing of Staveley to buy him at a much reduced price, it seems unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 3 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Yes please. Probably too dear even if true! Been my top RW choice since summer 23 but with our clear change in style I’m not as convinced now. He’d still be a massive upgrade there obviously. Olise would have been the perfect signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Nine said: Been my top RW choice since summer 23 but with our clear change in style I’m not as convinced now. He’d still be a massive upgrade there obviously. Olise would have been the perfect signing. Same. Love Mbuemo - can't believe he doesn't get more attention in the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 Mbuemo I’d take all day. But then you look at the issues we’ve faced this summer, I feel I’d rather see the club go elsewhere. Had we been able to get a fee for Almiron/Wilson, then Mbeumo would be great as he would be the 2nd striker too and still allow for another named RW. But that’s two players where it should be £40m summer 2023, likely going summer 2025 for £0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 Johan Bakayoko? Contract expires summer 2026. Transfermarkt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 6 hours ago, Danh1 said: This is why I struggle to have any sympathy for Howe when it comes to the summer. I mean, if it was verified as true, then I would agree. But we're supposed to believe some gobshite DM journo? Who was regularly vague and non-committal whilst providing EXCLUSIVES about Guehi during the summer. Why would you choose to believe him, exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 16 hours ago, KaKa said: Not surprised by that really. His age and experience probably makes him one of our more valuable assets that we could let go to raise funds. I'm not sure how much interest he'll garner at this point though, with his recent long injury layoff and poor form. I imagine we'd want at least £25 million for him minimum, but not sure if anyone bids that currently. He should probably join a team that doesn't play such an intense style, as his body doesn't seem to hold up. Could maybe see him at a West Ham or Fulham. Can't see many coming in for him for decent money. Missed most of last season, had recurring/linked injuries. Came back looking strong and then got injured yet again this season. Was barely a 2/10 against Brighton. I really like him and hope he can rediscover his form. Whether that is so we can get good money for him or he can then start to contribute for us and become a vital part of the team again. I don't massively mind. But as it stands, he looks miles off the player he was for us when he first signed and then again in the 4th placed season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 Unless Mitchell isn't actually changing anything about our recruitment then I would be shocked if the players we are after are: 1) currently successful PL players (unless very young and thus cheaper with huge value gain potential e.g. Dibling) 2) known to anyone in the media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 Just now, timeEd32 said: Unless Mitchell isn't actually changing anything about our recruitment then I would be shocked if the players we are after are: 1) currently successful PL players (unless very young and thus cheaper with huge value gain potential e.g. Dibling) 2) known to anyone in the media Agreed. We'll be looking at the next Mbuemos or Elangas. At £10-15m they wouldn't look like such bad deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 One thing which is becoming crystal clear is that we can't compete with the cartel clubs for the best in class, proven players. We almost had Tosin but Chelsea stepped in. We wanted Elise but had no chance when all the CL clubs were also in there pitching. Under current spending restrictions imposed by the PL, the only way lure we have is for players who are not proven yet, and we can spend a bit extra in the gamble it pays off. That's how it worked with Isak and Bruno basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted October 24, 2024 Share Posted October 24, 2024 (edited) 27 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Unless Mitchell isn't actually changing anything about our recruitment then I would be shocked if the players we are after are: 1) currently successful PL players (unless very young and thus cheaper with huge value gain potential e.g. Dibling) 2) known to anyone in the media Only reason I would say we go against that approach is the fact it's the winter window and not the summer depending what the signing is being brought in for immediate starting 11 or not. Also depends on our situation league wise if we need a good second half of the season to save our season or consolidate a certain league place then going abroad may be too much of a gamble. Now frustratingly I would say we can't go on paying premiums for players and every player carries risk why not be the club to benefit on the gamble rather than the team paying the 2 or 3 x the original purchase price for a more finished article/gem. Is it worth going out and spending 20ish million on someone from the continent who may flop or 40/50m on a prem player who knows the league. In this fake analogy you could in theory sign 2 players for the price of that prem player. Edited October 24, 2024 by nufcjmc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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