NUFC Transfer Rumours

[r0cafella]

Im still not expecting anything until July. Most players are now either at the CWC or on holiday. Especially as the international break has ended. 

[sushimonster85]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Im still not expecting anything until July. Most players are now either at the CWC or on holiday. Especially as the international break has ended. 

 

In addition to this, I think our first transfer will come from out of nowhere and only break when it's almost done. 

[Kid Icarus]

My issue with Sancho isn't even really whether he's a dickhead or not tbh, it's that he's not very good. 

 

He's like the anti-Arjen Robben, you know exactly what he's going to do but you can do anything about it.

[Sibierski]

42 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

We have absolutely no need for Grealish. Not much more to analyse than that imo. 

 

If we could swap squad place of Willock to Grealish, and it not come with such big sums, we'd be far better off. Because they're similar in what they can bring (LCM, travelling with the ball, work rate), with Grealish being far better at the final pass element. It's just Willock is probably on like £60k pw and Grealish would still be 3 times that if Man City covered wages for rest of his contract.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

 

If we could swap squad place of Willock to Grealish, and it not come with such big sums, we'd be far better off. Because they're similar in what they can bring (LCM, travelling with the ball, work rate), with Grealish being far better at the final pass element. It's just Willock is probably on like £60k pw and Grealish would still be 3 times that if Man City covered wages for rest of his contract.

Grealish isn't a central midfielder, I don't see how such a swap makes any sense, even if you ignore the finances. 

[Stal]

20 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Im still not expecting anything until July. Most players are now either at the CWC or on holiday. Especially as the international break has ended. 

 

Read this as Christian Weston Chandler. I need to get off the internet for a bit.

[Abacus]

Reckon based on not much there's a chance we sign someone before the PSR deadline at the end of June but that most happens after.

 

What I wonder with sporting directors is that yes they're supposed to make the deals. But if you're ambitious player, talking direct to the manager who wants you and can explain his plans must be much more of an incentive. Managers can't do everything, but you can imagine Eddie is chomping at the bit to make things happen.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can only see Trafford being done in June. I’d expect 90% of all transfers to happen in the real window. 

[McCormick]

My issue with Sancho is his lack of professionalism and the fact that he’s seemingly got the heart of a pea. The lad plays like he’s afraid the grass might tackle him.

[toon25]

There's not a chance in merry hell that pisshead Grealish and that absolute waster Sancho will be coming here. Thankfully.

[Froggy]

We still owe money to Dortmund for Sancho I think. I can see us just sending him back there and writing the rest of it off. 

 

I'll be very happy to see the back of that little scrote.

[Collage]

1 hour ago, BennyBlanco said:

In regards to Grealish, obvious talent there and underneath there’s a thoroughly decent lad who’s always got time for fans etc etc. 

 

However there are massive red flags about his professionalism in regards to fitness. Rumours persist about his drinking (borderline alki and one to worry about when he retires) and his diet. 
 

There’s no question that Peps style has stifled his game but like most have said on here - is he worth the wage outlay when there’s too many questions about him? Probably not.

 

That being said, if anyone can rehabilitate the lad it’s Eddie. . . .

I agree with all of this, pretty much. Turning up your nose at Grealish is a bit strange to me. He's obviously talented and would bring quality. Question marks and red flags, yes, but Eddie coaching Grealish...would be interesting indeed. 

[SteV]

People need to realise that Eddie isn’t interested in loans where there’s little to no chance of the player becoming a permanent signing.

 

That’s not how he works. He’s completely different to someone like Emery.

 

Grealish has two years left on his contract, so ignoring the arguments about his abilities (or not), and how he fits into our team (or not), the only way it would be viable is if Man City paid at least 50% of his wages for a season whilst on loan to us, then sold him to us for a reasonable fee with one year left, and he was willing to take at least a 50% pay cut.

 

Anybody think that’s very likely?

[gbandit]

Nope, I don’t think there’s anything remotely likely about the transfer: age, wages, loan element, professional commitment etc are all no go areas for Howe 

[TRon]

Fuck me, first time on NO today and two pages of No Dickhead bullshit. 

 

Just shows how slim the transfer rumours are. The only firm target so far seems to be Trafford. While it's great 'n all, I think the area we must cover is striker/forward. The Jao Pedro links need to become firmer before I feel we are getting somewhere. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

17 minutes ago, TRon said:

Fuck me, first time on NO today and two pages of No Dickhead bullshit. 

 

Just shows how slim the transfer rumours are. The only firm target so far seems to be Trafford. While it's great 'n all, I think the area we must cover is striker/forward. The Jao Pedro links need to become firmer before I feel we are getting somewhere. 

 

I'd like to know what you're expecting to find

[The College Dropout]

41 minutes ago, SteV said:

People need to realise that Eddie isn’t interested in loans where there’s little to no chance of the player becoming a permanent signing.

 

That’s not how he works. He’s completely different to someone like Emery.

 

Grealish has two years left on his contract, so ignoring the arguments about his abilities (or not), and how he fits into our team (or not), the only way it would be viable is if Man City paid at least 50% of his wages for a season whilst on loan to us, then sold him to us for a reasonable fee with one year left, and he was willing to take at least a 50% pay cut.

 

Anybody think that’s very likely?

I think with PSR this might change.

[SteV]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I think with PSR this might change.

It would take a fairly significant change in mentality from Eddie. 
 

I know the financial arguments that would be put forward for it, but as adaptable as Eddie has been to certain situations, the ability to develop players and reap the rewards from that, feels like one of his key principles. Can’t see him changing that.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

I always took the no dickheads rule to mean nobody who will come in and upset the apple cart. It's why Gordon got the talk after throwing his toys in his first season. 

Yep - it’s not about their personal ethics, it’s about not fucking off their teammates.   Plenty of our squad might well be dickheads.  Trippier is the perfect example - seems to be a dressing-room leader, but also seems to have been a bit of a cunt away from it

[r0cafella]

Just now, SteV said:

It would take a fairly significant change in mentality from Eddie. 
 

I know the financial arguments that would be put forward for it, but as adaptable as Eddie has been to certain situations, the ability to develop players and reap the rewards from that, feels like one of his key principles. Can’t see him changing that.

Loans are terrible for PSR.

 

You pay a fee and you pay wages and you do not gain an asset. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Loans are terrible for PSR.

 

You pay a fee and you pay wages and you do not gain an asset. 

It can help us get a squad that can compete in the CL and requalify for the CL without a long term commitment. 
 

Not qualifying for the CL is a worse option for me come than a £5-10m cost of a loan that might make the difference. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

It can help us get a squad that can compete in the CL and requalify for the CL without a long term commitment. 
 

Not qualifying for the CL is a worse option for me come than a £5-10m cost of a loan that might make the difference. 

Villa tried that gamble, didn't work out ended up costing them a fortune. 

 

plus let's take a step into reality, who should we loan? Who will push us over the line? 

 

 

[Chicken Dancer]

The only 'loans' I think we will do are ones like Hall - where you want the player permanently but sign the year later for accounting purposes. I actually think signing Trafford this way wouldn't be a bad idea - £5m now and £30m next summer. They can have the Greek too.

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Loans are terrible for PSR.

 

You pay a fee and you pay wages and you do not gain an asset. 

Depends how you look at it I suppose. 
 

You’re quite right in what you say - but - if we look at what Villa did last season, they significantly strengthened themselves for the second half of the season, without the massive outlay it would have cost to do that permanently.

 

Ultimately it failed as they didn’t make CL, but it was a reasonably calculated risk, that almost got them back to the CL riches.

 

I prefer our/Eddie’s way though. In a world of everything revolving around transitional and periodic financial strength, it’s (almost) wholesome to buy a player and watch him gradually improve with the team (even if you did pay millions for him in the first place).

[Kanj]

Id have no issue with Grealish at Newcastle if he was the ace off the bench or played in special circumstances and needs. I’d love to see the fella get back to being an incredible footballer again (see Villa days) as his stuff he does in the community and how is with fans is really heart warming stuff. 
 

on to the football, he is one of a few footballers who can drag 2-3 defenders his way with how he retains possession and holds the ball, creating space and opportunities for others. I’d like to think what he learned at City coupled with new life under Eddie Howe would be pretty fascinating to see on the pitch. However, don’t see this deal happening anyway.