Mazzy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think a fit Wilson is a better centre forward than Solanke tbh, but we definitely can’t go on with two injury prone CFs Im not denying that Wilson was excellent last season and for us in seasons gone by but now I think the injuries are becoming far more common and he takes so much longer to get back to sharpness after them. I'll put it this way, I'd be far more pleased seeing Solanke go to the Euros as back up with England in the summer than I would Wilson. Not only because he can stay for but because I think he has moved onto another stage in his career this season and offers more all around than Wilson does. The price tag for him is another discussion, because he's certainly not worth the £60M touted about in some places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Solanke is having as good a season this campaign as Wilson ever has imo, maybe even better. Fantastic output and a grafter as well. Biggest worry with him is that it's an outlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 So glad we avoided Phillips. Cost West Ham 2 goals and been sent off in 3 games So far away from being match fit, be good enough for England though I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 37 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Solanke is having as good a season this campaign as Wilson ever has imo, maybe even better. Fantastic output and a grafter as well. Biggest worry with him is that it's an outlier. Solanke's far more mobile than Wilson these days, but Wilson is a proven finisher. Not sure Solanke is yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 24 minutes ago, TRon said: Solanke's far more mobile than Wilson these days, but Wilson is a proven finisher. Not sure Solanke is yet. On course to score more goals than Wilson ever has in the PL to be fair. He’s a better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Jonathan David for me like (Sesko is my number one choice but David is canny) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 43 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: On course to score more goals than Wilson ever has in the PL to be fair. He’s a better player. He looks a better all round player for sure. But is he a one season wonder? Wilson whatever else his failings, you know for a fact if he's fit for the majority of a season he scores goals, every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I really like the look of Solanke. He's got similar attributes to Toney and I think there's room for improvement. In terms of price. What's he going to set is back? 50m? While some might turn their noses up, that's standard fare for a good PL striker. Ultimately, I believe in the TEAM but the team can't function if some of its players are made of paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, STM said: I really like the look of Solanke. He's got similar attributes to Toney and I think there's room for improvement. In terms of price. What's he going to set is back? 50m? While some might turn their noses up, that's standard fare for a good PL striker. Ultimately, I believe in the TEAM but the team can't function if some of its players are made of paper. 60 million was the price quoted in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, STM said: I really like the look of Solanke. He's got similar attributes to Toney and I think there's room for improvement. In terms of price. What's he going to set is back? 50m? While some might turn their noses up, that's standard fare for a good PL striker. Ultimately, I believe in the TEAM but the team can't function if some of its players are made of paper. Solanke is a good player - sadly the Snglish tax means he is out of reach FWIW I think we will go abroad J David Sesko Gimenez Zirkee Gudmundsson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: 60 million was the price quoted in January. Hard pass at 60m. Not because he’s bad or anything it’s just way too much money for a guy who’s already 26 and has no experience playing at European level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 While I see what Howe is trying to do, I still like the idea of a defensive midfielder, even if just to bring on late on or to change shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Hard pass at 60m. Not because he’s bad or anything it’s just way too much money for a guy who’s already 26 and has no experience playing at European level. Agree, from the bits I’ve seen, Sesko would be perfect. Probably similar price as well although I think he will have better offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: While I see what Howe is trying to do, I still like the idea of a defensive midfielder, even if just to bring on late on or to change shape. Ideally someone who can retain and pass the ball - a lot of our issues with the back 5 stem from us losing the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, Mikky said: Ideally someone who can retain and pass the ball - a lot of our issues with the back 5 stem from us losing the ball A lot of it comes from not closing off the passing channels which we were so good at last season. That's Willock and Joelinton out and Longstaff having to play on the left for bit and having to try and nurse forwards through the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: While I see what Howe is trying to do, I still like the idea of a defensive midfielder, even if just to bring on late on or to change shape. Agree, don’t think we sign a midfielder though unless we sell one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 We need a fairly decent overhaul in the summer because its clear as day now that our squad is really weak. There is obvious deadwood like Fraser who need to be moved on but we probably need to shift some players who are around the first team too. Wilson and Almiron are the two obvious candidates at the minute, Joelinton as well if he doesn't sign a new deal. With our budget and the added value from players sales we should be looking to get about 3 first-teamers and a few fringe players for rotation who are better than what we have now. We obviously need a RW, LB, CB, a new striker if Wilson goes and at least 2 new central midfielders depending who who leaves the club in that position, so there's a lot of work to get done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 18/02/2024 at 09:51, Decky said: RW, LB, CB LB: Dan Burn January 31, 2022, Matt Targett July 1, 2022, Tino Livramento (more of a rb tbf) August 8, 2023, Lewis Hall August 22, 2023. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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timeEd32 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I'd give no more than a cameo to both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I'd give no more than a cameo to both. No more than 5-10 mins for either. Happy to lose as them 2 back and fit will impact our season massively. I'd like them to come back slow but stay fit. They won't though, they might not start against Arsenal but you can guarantee they will have a lot of minutes quickly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 19/02/2024 at 01:51, Decky said: We need a fairly decent overhaul in the summer because its clear as day now that our squad is really weak. There is obvious deadwood like Fraser who need to be moved on but we probably need to shift some players who are around the first team too. Wilson and Almiron are the two obvious candidates at the minute, Joelinton as well if he doesn't sign a new deal. With our budget and the added value from players sales we should be looking to get about 3 first-teamers and a few fringe players for rotation who are better than what we have now. We obviously need a RW, LB, CB, a new striker if Wilson goes and at least 2 new central midfielders depending who who leaves the club in that position, so there's a lot of work to get done. How many left backs do we need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 41 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: How many left backs do we need? Can only assume we’re backing out of the Hall deal. If we’re not it’s truly bizarre why he isn’t being given time on the field. Targett isn’t really good enough. He’s decent like but if we have a new lb I don’t see the value in having both him and Burn at the club. Burn being able to cover at centre back as well puts him above Targett. Tino is filling a hole there when we see him, ideally next season he’d be rotating with Trippier. @rebelrouser was gonna reply to you too but this covers both replies. Edited February 20 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: I'd give no more than a cameo to both. i feel blackburn is the more important game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 7 hours ago, huss9 said: i feel blackburn is the more important game. Yep. I’d happily see a reserve side vs Arsenal to ensure full fitness for Blackburn (other opinions do exist, though) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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