The Prophet Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Also, definitely some shiny new toy syndrome, but I'd rather sign Tapsoba than Guehi. He's excellent on the ball and a physical specimen of a defender. He'd probably be marginally cheaper too. We seem to have been linked to him for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 hour ago, KDT said: Disasi - I feel like there is the potential for any Chelsea signing to be given a bit of a free pass on one indifferent season with a crackpot of a football club. Perhaps he‘s best judged on his earlier form. Has anyone seen this lad play ? He seems to have the pedigree of a great player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, christ said: Minteh did exactly what he was meant to do - arrive, increase in value and get flipped for a big profit. Our treatment of him from the moment he signed made it very transparent. He was a PSR parachute. The reason that clubs are going down the route of trading youth is that it’s an inherently less risky approach than selling your best players and hoping you can reinvest in equivalent quality. think that’s absolutely guesswork because that’s what other clubs do. If we don’t have to sell I’m certain Minteh would have played for us this season if not started for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, gdm said: No disrespect intended but I’ve been on this forum nearly 20 years and that’s up there with the biggest load of bollocks I’ve read on here Yea it’s fucking bollocks if PSR doesn’t exist. I really agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, Zero said: Yea it’s fucking bollocks if PSR doesn’t exist. I really agree with that. No one bid for Bruno btw. He had a release clause and no one activated it. That’s reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, gdm said: think that’s absolutely guesswork because that’s what other clubs do. If we don’t have to sell I’m certain Minteh would have played for us this season if not started for us. If circumstances were different they would be different, yes. Someone triggers Bruno’s release clause and we probably keep Minteh. He - and let’s be honest every other youth player we’ve hoovered up in the last 24 months that people are getting attached to - are seen just as much as future income as they are future NUFC players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, gdm said: No one bid for Bruno btw. He had a release clause and no one activated it. That’s reality. which means his market value has already dropped below his clause price, and likely will keep on dropping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 12 minutes ago, Zero said: Yea it’s fucking bollocks if PSR doesn’t exist. I really agree with that. Doubt it yet, he's just heading into the peak of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 TBF Darren Eales did warn us earlier this year that players would need to be sold to balance the books Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Hope Isak scores 20 before January so we can sell him for good money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 25 minutes ago, Ben said: TBF Darren Eales did warn us earlier this year that players would need to be sold to balance the books Well lets at least do that then. we haven't event sent anyone out on loan this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Newcastle Fan said: Well lets at least do that then. we haven't event sent anyone out on loan this year. Loans historically happen in the last couple of days of the window, without fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 I guess most would be OK if we landed Chiesa on loan in the last week of the window? Seems like the sort of loan deal that drops late in the window, either him or one of the Barca lads. I'd rather spend on a CB and loan a RW than the other way round, stability is more important at the back. Could also see Trafford coming in and being loaned straight back for a season unless the powers that be think there is a good chance of Marmalade coming in next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: I guess most would be OK if we landed Chiesa on loan in the last week of the window? Seems like the sort of loan deal that drops late in the window, either him or one of the Barca lads. I'd rather spend on a CB and loan a RW than the other way round, stability is more important at the back. Could also see Trafford coming in and being loaned straight back for a season unless the powers that be think there is a good chance of Marmalade coming in next summer Marmalade is set for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 I don’t recall Disasi being that bad from the games I watched him last season, not that he particularly stood out in those games either by the way, he just went about his job. There does seem to be an overly negative reaction with Chelsea players on here when we are linked with them, so it is hard to gauge genuine criticism of the player on ability or being part of the Chelsea machine which does come across as a shambles. I would say this one could be a possibility, he was linked with us last summer and also the Mitchell link so he will know him personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: I don’t recall Disasi being that bad from the games I watched him last season, not that he particularly stood out in those games either by the way, he just went about his job. There does seem to be an overly negative reaction with Chelsea players on here when we are linked with them, so it is hard to gauge genuine criticism of the player on ability or being part of the Chelsea machine which does come across as a shambles. I would say this one could be a possibility, he was linked with us last summer and also the Mitchell link so he will know him personally. Signed for £40m last summer so they could sell him for £35m and still make a "profit" in PSR terms. Know little about Tapsoba but he seems a very attack-minded CB, arguably a more like-for-like Schar replacement than Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 hour ago, gdm said: No one bid for Bruno btw. He had a release clause and no one activated it. That’s reality. Clubs can bid under the release clause and we can sell at that if we want. We don't k ow if any questions about his availability were asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Just saw Tapsoba signed a new contract and Lever were playing hard ball with Tottenham all last summer - I doubt it happens but would be delighted. He's a great player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Menace said: Just saw Tapsoba signed a new contract and Lever were playing hard ball with Tottenham all last summer - I doubt it happens but would be delighted. He's a great player. Aye given we don’t tend to leak to the press it seems like a bit of a negotiation strategy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zero said: which means his market value has already dropped below his clause price, and likely will keep on dropping no it does not you’re talking codswallop Edited August 21, 2024 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: From that angle this summer and next. But as other clubs have shown you don’t have to sell your best players. Liverpool haven’t since Coutinho. Those clubs have PSR headroom to continue to develop their squad though, we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Just now, Unbelievable said: Those clubs have PSR headroom to continue to develop their squad though, we don't. Yes but you can get your headroom without selling your stars for less than they are worth as we demonstrated this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Yes but you can get your headroom without selling your stars for less than they are worth as we demonstrated this summer. I don't think anybody suggested the bit in bold..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Just now, Unbelievable said: I don't think anybody suggested the bit in bold..? Our friend zero suggested we sell big Joe for 30m. And the overall point is, we don’t have to sell our star players to player trade as we already demonstrated. People losing it because we sold Minteh is mad, imagine if we actually sold a Bruno… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 5 hours ago, macphisto said: It depends what your aims are? Apart from Leicester, nearly every team that has won a trophy has paid through the nose for players. At some point you need to take that leap or else you just plateau and won't win anything. Yes, you can find bargains but you can't do that across the whole team. A good example of the mix you should aim for is say Ferdinand & Vidic with regards to transfer fees. I agree and we have, Isak was big money and arguably had not shown recent form to be worth the amount. Proved to be a very sound purchase. But the notion that it’s Guehi or no one. A big name or bust, that seems to me to be a strange idea that’s crept up on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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