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[Palestoon]

4 hours ago, gdm said:

How would that help them?

The same way selling Anderson for 30 million and buying the Greek keeper for 20 mil helped us avoid PSR trouble.

[gdm]

5 hours ago, Palestoon said:

The same way selling Anderson for 30 million and buying the Greek keeper for 20 mil helped us avoid PSR trouble.

Yeah but to help them they’d have to make a profit (like we did) Anderson for £30m & Greek keeper reportedly was £20m they made £10m on the deal. How would selling Ramsay at a cut price and Barnes at an inflated fee help then unless they still made a profit. 
 

it only worked because the keeper was worth considerably less than Anderson & nowhere near £20m

 

 

Edited May 9 by gdm

[High Five o]

4 minutes ago, gdm said:

Yeah but to help them they’d have to make a profit (like we did) Anderson for £30m & Greek keeper reportedly was £20m they made £10m on the deal. How would selling Ramsay at a cut price and Barnes at an inflated fee help then unless they still made a profit. 
 

it only worked because the keeper was worth nowhere near £20m

 

 

 

If you sell for 20m and buy for 20m the accounting would show profit.

 

20m sale is accounted for full value.

 

20 purchase (assuming 5 y contract) is accounted for 4m first year.

 

So in essence a 16m profit first year.

 

4m negative the next 4 years.

 

 

[Groundhog63]

7 minutes ago, gdm said:

Yeah but to help them they’d have to make a profit (like we did) Anderson for £30m & Greek keeper reportedly was £20m they made £10m on the deal. How would selling Ramsay at a cut price and Barnes at an inflated fee help then unless they still made a profit. 
 

it only worked because the keeper was worth considerably less than Anderson & nowhere near £20m

 

 

 

 

I'm no expert but, iirc, I did see it explained a bit differently to that. 

 

£30m for Anderson was "pure profit" = all went on the books

 

£20m for Vlad was all debt BUT amoratised over the leghth of his contract so not 30-20

[Colos Short and Curlies]

7 minutes ago, High Five o said:

If you sell for 20m and buy for 20m the accounting would show profit.

 

20m sale is accounted for full value.

 

20 purchase (assuming 5 y contract) is accounted for 4m first year.

 

So in essence a 16m profit first year.

 

4m negative the next 4 years.

 

 

 

A June deal works slightly differently as you only take 1 12th of the annual amortisation so I'm effect get the full £20 million profit this year then £4m cost for the next 5 years 

[Sibierski]

6 hours ago, vexred said:

Read that Trafford wants £100k a week. I hope we look elsewhere.  

He’s going to be a starting GK and highly likely the next England number 1 in the early part of that contract.

[gdm]

12 minutes ago, High Five o said:

If you sell for 20m and buy for 20m the accounting would show profit.

 

20m sale is accounted for full value.

 

20 purchase (assuming 5 y contract) is accounted for 4m first year.

 

So in essence a 16m profit first year.

 

4m negative the next 4 years.

 

 

I get you. 

[Taylor Swift]

Guehi for £35m

Sell Willock for £25m

 

Ramsey for £40m

Sell Barnes for £40m

 

We would get a new CB and Joelinton’s replacement for two bench players.

 

The extra money would go towards a GK and a RW. If Longstaff leaves then we’ll need another CM, hopefully someone young so Miley still gets his minutes.

[BennyBlanco]

I think all the talk of selling Barnes is madness. Without his goals and contributions this year we’d be nowhere. 

[Joelinton7]

3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

I think all the talk of selling Barnes is madness. Without his goals and contributions this year we’d be nowhere. 

Agreed. People want us in the top Euro comps but then want us to not have a squad to able to actually compete in these comps. 

[simonsays]

4 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

I think all the talk of selling Barnes is madness. Without his goals and contributions this year we’d be nowhere. 

It's mad - seemingly the one area of the pitch we have genuine strength in depth and people want to sacrifice that.  The suspension + injury of Gordon could have been a disaster if we didn't have Barnes to step in

[Crimson Cardigan]

4 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

I think all the talk of selling Barnes is madness. Without his goals and contributions this year we’d be nowhere. 

Agreed. Can’t believe we’re still having this debate tbh. And 40million? For that level of goal involvement? Get out of here!

[Hanshithispantz]

Swapping Barnes for Ramsey would be insane like.

[ponsaelius]

Would definitely take Ramsey to replace Willock. Not Barnes though.

[Yorkie]

Having players like Barnes in depth is why we're talking first about finishing 3rd rather than 7th. We need more like him.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Ramsey for Willock would be one of the best upgrades we've ever done.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Just now, Yorkie said:

Having players like Barnes in depth is why we're talking first about finishing 3rd rather than 7th. We need more like him.

 

We're about to go into a Euro campaign, we're not selling anyone who's played a lot of first team football unless the offer is absolutely insane imo.

[HayDen Traces]

Anyone saying we should replace Barnes with Ramsey is a Villa fan like

[gdm]

Yeah, I want Barnes to stay

[r0cafella]

I wouldn't swap Barnes for Ramsey however I'm very relaxed about letting players to who aren't Isak and Tonali.

 

PSR demands sacrifices if your us or Villa as shit as it is.

[vexred]

4 hours ago, Sibierski said:

He’s going to be a starting GK and highly likely the next England number 1 in the early part of that contract.

 

Pickford is only 31. There is nothing to say he's going to be England No1. 

[SteV]

13 minutes ago, vexred said:

 

Pickford is only 31. There is nothing to say he's going to be England No1. 

I’d suggest the main thing that says he is, is his ability.

[Hanshithispantz]

14 hours ago, STM said:

 

Doesnt have to be. Finding a left winger to play as back up to Gordon isn't going to be so difficult, where as Ramsey as an upgrade to Willock might be the exact target Howe wants.

Getting one as good as Barnes who will come to sit on the bench would be like

[KaKa]

Eddie Howe:

 

"I don't know the intricacies of our financial position depending on Champions League qualification. I don't think it changes too much, in terms of our targets and who we look to try and sign, just because we're trying to go for the best players in a very small pool of players to pick from.

"Obviously, I think it's where we want to be, that's where we want to play, we want to be in the highest level competitions we can. We want to test ourselves to the absolute maximum and try and recreate those great nights here."

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, KaKa said:

Eddie Howe:

 

"I don't know the intricacies of our financial position depending on Champions League qualification. I don't think it changes too much, in terms of our targets and who we look to try and sign, just because we're trying to go for the best players in a very small pool of players to pick from.

"Obviously, I think it's where we want to be, that's where we want to play, we want to be in the highest level competitions we can. We want to test ourselves to the absolute maximum and try and recreate those great nights here."

Still have nightmares over the small pool of players quotes from last summer.