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1 hour ago, mighty__mag said:

I'd sooner see us spend big on Mbuemo, and spend less on Guehi, enter talks with Tomori instead who's going to be half the price.

Guehi is likely to be considerably cheaper than last year with only a year left on contract right?

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49 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Mbeumo earns about 45k a week, so I don't think fitting his wages into our budget will be an issue.

 

Man Utd will match our bid but blow us out of the water with wages, if we try to compete we'll need to change our full wage structure, Bruno and Isak wont be happy if he's on double them.

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11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He was weak against Brighton but overall he wasn't terrible.

 

And most of the issue was tactical. It didn't resolve when he had a year to settle in either. It was only resolved with the tactical shift.

He wasn't just bad against Brighton, though; those sloppy passes and lack of commitment weren't tactical, mate. We all said he needed time, and there's a whole thread saying that, including you. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree.

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3 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Man Utd will match our bid but blow us out of the water with wages, if we try to compete we'll need to change our full wage structure, Bruno and Isak wont be happy if he's on double them.

Nah, let's not get into a wage war with Man Utd. If a Champions League spot and a solid, improving team aren't enough to attract him with in our wage structure, then fair enough, but we should at least give it a shot.

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6 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Man Utd will match our bid but blow us out of the water with wages, if we try to compete we'll need to change our full wage structure, Bruno and Isak wont be happy if he's on double them.

Double Bruno is £300k+. Don’t think anyone’s giving him remotely close to that.

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1 hour ago, geordie john said:

My thoughts on the Mbuemo rumour (is there any real proof?) is that he's a 25 year old at the peak of his game, will command at least £50m fee, high wages and 1st team action. Nothing wrong with that except for a minor detail called Murphy. He's a 30 year old at the peak of his game, had an amazing season and costs a fraction of Mbuemo's wages. I'm all for the need for quality of depth of the squad but do we really need to replace Murphy right now? wouldn't it be better to buy a much cheaper, younger, 'up and coming' right winger (a bit like Dibling but not him) give him a yeat to be Howe'd and then gradually replace Murphy. 

 

I like Murphy and have rated him for some time now. But I also think it is going too far to think that we should rely on him being the clear 1st choice now that we have the oppurtunity to give him some solid competition. 

When considering that Mbeumo also could be our backup striker Murphy will still get alot of games in a season where we also have CL.

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7 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

He wasn't just bad against Brighton, though; those sloppy passes and lack of commitment weren't tactical, mate. We all said he needed time, and there's a whole thread saying that, including you. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree.

Stick Isak at right midfield and see how many MotM performances he puts in. Some were saying before he kicked a ball for us that he has to play centrally. Because of where he was started the whole team was disjointed for a while.

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Murphy is a solid pro with a limited skillset that's just come off his most productive season for us. 

But don't get blinded by his form we all know he can go missing big time when we need him to step up. 

A more natural inverted right winger is needed in fact it's been needed for years. 

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1 hour ago, tarie4 said:

Nah, I don't buy that. A winger scoring every 3.5 games in the Prem is pretty solid, and with assists factored in, that's a killer G/A ratio. He's played 98 games (not counting last season), with 22 goals and 21 assists – that's a goal or assist every two games! If he was ours, we'd definitely want more than sixty million.

 

You can rule him out because we can't afford him, not because sixty million isn't good value.

 

 


£60m for vast majority of players isn’t good value. Yes we’d want that, doesn’t mean they’re worth it. Once you are getting to that point, they need to be near best in their class where similar players are unattainable and Mbeumo isn’t that for me (like Gordon wouldn’t be for the value we’d want).

 

Other season people were getting proper up on Bowen, it’s not much different IMO. There’s far better value out there for RW.

 

When it comes to closing gap on the teams above, adding another goalscorer from RW isn’t the money breaking club record deal / wage we have to make. A better player there in terms of eye for a pass / ball retention / progression than Murphy, yes, but having a top CB, better GK and another top CM are the key positions (with a back up ST). We are good at creating chances under Howe, our issue is conceding chances. We rarely look like winning games 1-0 if needed, always require us needing to score at least 2, maybe 3 in away games. 
 

153 goals in 76 games. Superb. 109 goals conceded in 76 games. Not superb. 

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4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Man Utd confident of signing Mbeumo according to their ITK's. No idea how reliable they are but they have been shared on here before and seem to have a good following. 

 

 


“Do you want massive wages that we’ll struggle to get off our books within a couple of years” 

 

“Yes”

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