NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Kid Icarus]

2 hours ago, gdm said:

That’s an Ashley window that. When he bothered to spend money that is

When did Ashley sign Athletico Madrid and Chelsea players and hoy the best striker in the world on a new contract rather than immediately cash in?

 

The window has been really frustrating but the comparisons with Ashley are always insane.

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

When did Ashley sign Athletico Madrid and Chelsea players and hoy the best striker in the world on a new contract rather than immediately cash in?

Manquillo and Kenedy.

 

Might be stretching it to say Dwight Gayle was the best striker in the world like.

[Kid Icarus]

11 minutes ago, SteV said:

Manquillo and Kenedy.

 

Might be stretching it to say Dwight Gayle was the best striker in the world like.

 

Way back in the reserves vs frequent first teamers

 

Ashley would never have had paid for the best striker in the world in the first place. Good was good enough to sell at the first opportunity. Can't believe I'm arguing this tbh, they're both obviously chalk and Cheese.

[SteV]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Way back in the reserves vs frequent first teamers

 

Ashley would never have had paid for the best striker in the world in the first place. Good was good enough to sell at the first opportunity. Can't believe I'm arguing this tbh, they're both obviously chalk and Cheese.

For all the frustrated posting, I don’t think anyone really thinks this window is remotely reminiscent of anything under Ashley. 
 

I mean, the one player we have signed so far would of been Ashley’s record buy, by eight figures…

[LFEE]

5 minutes ago, SteV said:

For all the frustrated posting, I don’t think anyone really thinks this window is remotely reminiscent of anything under Ashley. 
 

I mean, the one player we have signed so far would of been Ashley’s record buy, by eight figures…

 

I’m more frustrated with some posters than the window. It’s going exactly as I predicted (so far!). Think a lot of the frustrations stem from fans having extremely ambitious expectations combined with a lack of understanding of where we are in the food chain, the threat we’ve shown to the established six in a short space of time and reaction that has caused, various legal challenges still ongoing in the background the club might be waiting on and our small revenue in comparison to those we are competing for players with.

 

That and modern day players attitudes. The time we were challenging either side of the millennium on TV and kids watching growing up to be players would’ve been at an age to sign during the Ashley era. We’ve a long way to go to restore our reputation and faith as one of the big boys. You only have to see YTubers, pundits etc of a similar age and how dismissive they are of us. Same generation as the players we are looking at currently. Yet posters constantly question why they’d chose Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd over us, never mind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, oldtype said:

I don't mind the idea of us having a reality check and going after slightly less attractive targets given that we clearly can't compete with the cartel clubs for the absolute top tier players. 

 

Slightly older players like Trippier. Young prospects who need to grow into the squad like Livramento and Hall. Competent PL players who we're explicitly bringing in to be part of the squad rather than to be fixtures in the starting XI, like Dan Burn (who turns out to be starting anyway).

 

If we're going to have to pay a ridiculous premium to get anywhere near the cream of the crop, better to be outbidding all the mid table clubs for the best of the rest instead. Frankly, we need depth just as much as we need quality.

 

 

 

 

 

I think that was what Mitchell's remit was, but from Howe's POV we have outgrown that. He wants to compete with the cartel clubs NOW not down the line, and that means going for the top tier players. Of course because of PSR that's not realistic, but you can't really expect anything less from a manager who has big ambition. 

[Groundhog63]

11 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

I’m more frustrated with some posters than the window. It’s going exactly as I predicted (so far!). Think a lot of the frustrations stem from fans having extremely ambitious expectations combined with a lack of understanding of where we are in the food chain, the threat we’ve shown to the established six in a short space of time and reaction that has caused, various legal challenges still ongoing in the background the club might be waiting on and our small revenue in comparison to those we are competing for players with.

 

That and modern day players attitudes. The time we were challenging either side of the millennium on TV and kids watching growing up to be players would’ve been at an age to sign during the Ashley era. We’ve a long way to go to restore our reputation and faith as one of the big boys. You only have to see YTubers, pundits etc of a similar age and how dismissive they are of us. Same generation as the players we are looking at currently. Yet posters constantly question why they’d chose Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd over us, never mind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

[Yorkie]

14 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

I’m more frustrated with some posters than the window. It’s going exactly as I predicted (so far!). Think a lot of the frustrations stem from fans having extremely ambitious expectations combined with a lack of understanding of where we are in the food chain, the threat we’ve shown to the established six in a short space of time and reaction that has caused, various legal challenges still ongoing in the background the club might be waiting on and our small revenue in comparison to those we are competing for players with.

 

That and modern day players attitudes. The time we were challenging either side of the millennium on TV and kids watching growing up to be players would’ve been at an age to sign during the Ashley era. We’ve a long way to go to restore our reputation and faith as one of the big boys. You only have to see YTubers, pundits etc of a similar age and how dismissive they are of us. Same generation as the players we are looking at currently. Yet posters constantly question why they’d chose Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd over us, never mind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

Agree but I'd attribute it more to the literally never-ending access to information, causing frustration when there's no information. I doubt we'd lose our marbles quite so frequently if all we had was Ceefax or newspapers. Plus the anxiety caused by last summer's failure and an apparent (but irrational, imo) sense that we're not actually capable of making signings. 

[gdm]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

When did Ashley sign Athletico Madrid and Chelsea players and hoy the best striker in the world on a new contract rather than immediately cash in?

 

The window has been really frustrating but the comparisons with Ashley are always insane.

You chose to take that seriously huh? 
 

this transfer window got people crazy  I was jumping on the back of a load of people laughing at the suggestions. 7 or 8 saying it was underwhelming or shite. Understand why mentioning Ashley got you rilled mind 

[Kid Icarus]

42 minutes ago, SteV said:

For all the frustrated posting, I don’t think anyone really thinks this window is remotely reminiscent of anything under Ashley. 
 

I mean, the one player we have signed so far would of been Ashley’s record buy, by eight figures…

You would hope that it's deliberate hyperbole to make a point, but I've seen it enough times and fleshed out as a serious point enough to still give it the benefit of the doubt. Always the possibility that a lot of it is engagement farming/rage baiting like.

[Coffee_Johnny]

17 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

I’m more frustrated with some posters than the window. It’s going exactly as I predicted (so far!). Think a lot of the frustrations stem from fans having extremely ambitious expectations combined with a lack of understanding of where we are in the food chain, the threat we’ve shown to the established six in a short space of time and reaction that has caused, various legal challenges still ongoing in the background the club might be waiting on and our small revenue in comparison to those we are competing for players with.

 

That and modern day players attitudes. The time we were challenging either side of the millennium on TV and kids watching growing up to be players would’ve been at an age to sign during the Ashley era. We’ve a long way to go to restore our reputation and faith as one of the big boys. You only have to see YTubers, pundits etc of a similar age and how dismissive they are of us. Same generation as the players we are looking at currently. Yet posters constantly question why they’d chose Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd over us, never mind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

There has been a fair bit of ‘awfulising’ and annoying acceptance of notions about power dynamics and Howe wanting to have control/do everything (bollocks to my mind), but a lot (probably yourself included) are understandably disappointed to have missed out on some (e.g. Pedro) and frustrated that others seem stalled/no closer (Trafford, Scalvini/similar). I agree with your first paragraph but I really thought we would get some deals done early have three new players in before the tour. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

You chose to take that seriously huh? 
 

this transfer window got people crazy  I was jumping on the back of a load of people laughing at the suggestions. 7 or 8 saying it was underwhelming or shite. Understand why mentioning Ashley got you rilled mind 

Unless you're TBG you're going to get taken seriously when it's something other people are saying earnestly.

 

Glad you're just taking the piss though.

[Mole]

Sports fans in general are very reactionary and rarely remember what happened 5 minutes ago much less 5+ years ago.

 

I wouldn't give it any attention.

[gdm]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Unless you're TBG you're going to get taken seriously when it's something other people are saying earnestly.

 

Glad you're just taking the piss though.

Haha fair enough 

[Kid Icarus]

27 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Agree but I'd attribute it more to the literally never-ending access to information, causing frustration when there's no information. I doubt we'd lose our marbles quite so frequently if all we had was Ceefax or newspapers. Plus the anxiety caused by last summer's failure and an apparent (but irrational, imo) sense that we're not actually capable of making signings. 

 

The halcyon days of circa 2004 when the furore on here was based on Sunday's News of the World lies and Del Piero airport sighting lies.

 

We were always a bit mental I reckon, social media just preys on it.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[AyeDubbleYoo]

You could always call the Ceefax transfer rumours hotline if you really needed a hit of news. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

8 minutes ago, Mole said:

Sports fans in general are very reactionary and rarely remember what happened 5 minutes ago much less 5+ years ago.

 

I wouldn't give it any attention.

 

Just a bit disappointing for us given we've just emerged from 15 years of purgatory. And we only wanted a club that tries.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Abacus]

If we got Wissa, Scalvini and, say, Gallagher, I'd be absolutely delighted with this window.

 

Note to self; don't write these things down.

[Terrymac1966]

Just now, Abacus said:

If we got Wissa, Scalvini and, say, Gallagher, I'd be absolutely delighted with this window.

 

Note to self; don't write these things down.

Me too Abacus....gonna put you in charge of signings 👍

[Mole]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Just a bit disappointing for us given we've just emerged from 15 years of purgatory. And we only wanted a club that tries.

 

 

 

Oh I completely understand the frustrations, but more like that's all it is a feeling in the moment. Once the season starts things will calm, hopefully the results come with that.

[Shearergol]

Not sure why people keep going on about Scalvini. It's not gonna happen.

[madras]

Just now, Shearergol said:

Not sure why people keep going on about Scalvini. It's not gonna happen.

......said Atalntista.

[wong989]

35 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

I’m more frustrated with some posters than the window. It’s going exactly as I predicted (so far!). Think a lot of the frustrations stem from fans having extremely ambitious expectations combined with a lack of understanding of where we are in the food chain, the threat we’ve shown to the established six in a short space of time and reaction that has caused, various legal challenges still ongoing in the background the club might be waiting on and our small revenue in comparison to those we are competing for players with.

 

That and modern day players attitudes. The time we were challenging either side of the millennium on TV and kids watching growing up to be players would’ve been at an age to sign during the Ashley era. We’ve a long way to go to restore our reputation and faith as one of the big boys. You only have to see YTubers, pundits etc of a similar age and how dismissive they are of us. Same generation as the players we are looking at currently. Yet posters constantly question why they’d chose Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd over us, never mind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

But thats exactly why the club should have a scouting system in place where we have enough info, a big enough list that we can improve the squad each year. Last year we apparently had 60 for Guehi. Look around the premiership and see how much we could have improved the team for 40mil, which is what Guehi is worth. Could have had Delap, Hjuisen and Milkenkovic for 45 million. We definitely could have had 2 of the 3. Hjuisen leaves this year for Madrid, so what, we get 50mil. Christ we wanted him for 50 this year. Total indictment that we are nowhere near the level of competence required. I'm not frustrated we can't sign the tiny pool of top end talent that goes to the cartel auction. We are shopping a tier below for players at a high point in their valuation. 

[1964]

Can we just agree that the Liverpool fans on social media, who are rarely,  if ever from Liverpool,  are utterly loathsome? 

[TRon]

26 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

There has been a fair bit of ‘awfulising’ and annoying acceptance of notions about power dynamics and Howe wanting to have control/do everything (bollocks to my mind), but a lot (probably yourself included) are understandably disappointed to have missed out on some (e.g. Pedro) and frustrated that others seem stalled/no closer (Trafford, Scalvini/similar). I agree with your first paragraph but I really thought we would get some deals done early have three new players in before the tour. 

 

 

I think some fans have lost sense of reality, which is that when it comes to signing the top tier players, the clubs already at the top will have more pull than us, so there's no point in getting pissed off when we lose out on players like Pedro or Ekitike.

 

You could question whether we should be shopping in a different market, but that's on Howe, not us.