AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 15 hours ago, Weezertron said: I think there are people on here that would consider players like elanga a good deal if he comes good after 2 seasons. I think that’d be a really poor transfer tbh. I mean, who cares, it's better if he comes good than if he doesn't come good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Window Licker linking us with the cat botherer? https://www.givemesport.com/newcastle-eyeing-surprise-kurt-zouma-move-before-deadline/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Fuck that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The Cunha goal the other night against Arsenal showed the type of player we could do with, someone that can pull something out of their arse, take a chance and win a match. Other than Bruno we just don’t have anyone who can do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 18 hours ago, Stuy_O said: we signed those after working our way down the list, and they’ve the better of our summer signings. Both Thiaw and Woltemade scream Nickson picks too, not Eddie’s I can't give specific details but I know someone very close to Nickson. He said to me that Nickson never gives anything away regarding potential deals but will occasionally give a view after the player has signed or left. He told the person I know that: 1) He had not actively scouted Woltemade but was asked for his view on him as the deal was being negotiated. He told the club 'not to expect a prolific PL goalscorer' and that was his only involvement. 2) He spent the summer focused on our outgoing business and Andy Howe took over the incoming deal sheet. 3) When Ashley was owner, Nickson was a lone wolf but he now has a team and much more infrastructure yet 'he's never spent more time travelling'. That's all the guy was told and Nickson is apparently very guarded but I thought the Woltemade stuff, in particular, was interesting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I can't give specific details but I know someone very close to Nickson. He said to me that Nickson never gives anything away regarding potential deals but will occasionally give a view after the player has signed or left. He told the person I know that: 1) He had not actively scouted Woltemade but was asked for his view on him as the deal was being negotiated. He told the club 'not to expect a prolific PL goalscorer' and that was his only involvement. 2) He spent the summer focused on our outgoing business and Andy Howe took over the incoming deal sheet. 3) When Ashley was owner, Nickson was a lone wolf but he now has a team and much more infrastructure yet 'he's never spent more time travelling'. That's all the guy was told and Nickson is apparently very guarded but I thought the Woltemade stuff, in particular, was interesting... Lines up as I'm pretty sure the media were crediting A Howe for our incomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: The Cunha goal the other night against Arsenal showed the type of player we could do with, someone that can pull something out of their arse, take a chance and win a match. Other than Bruno we just don’t have anyone who can do that. Never thought i’d be envious of them cunts this season but they’ve got some good players in forward areas. Would have been a game changer if we’d have got Cunha in the summer. Thought they looked very good going forward and have a good mix of creativity, power and pace in Fernandes, Amad, Cunha, Dorgu and Mbeumo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 18 hours ago, Weezertron said: I think there are people on here that would consider players like elanga a good deal if he comes good after 2 seasons. I think that’d be a really poor transfer tbh. I would take that. Think he’ll follow our ‘Anthony trajectory’ and do a Gordon. He’ll get double figures next year folks; you heard it here first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: Never thought i’d be envious of them cunts this season but they’ve got some good players in forward areas. Would have been a game changer if we’d have got Cunha in the summer. Thought they looked very good going forward and have a good mix of creativity, power and pace in Fernandes, Amad, Cunha, Dorgu and Mbeumo. Unfortunately for us the ridiculous rules we have in place enable clubs who are much poorer than us to spend way more. They wasted so much money but the rules allow them to continue to do so despite being 1b in debt before we talk about a new stadium they want to build Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 14 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I can't give specific details but I know someone very close to Nickson. He said to me that Nickson never gives anything away regarding potential deals but will occasionally give a view after the player has signed or left. He told the person I know that: 1) He had not actively scouted Woltemade but was asked for his view on him as the deal was being negotiated. He told the club 'not to expect a prolific PL goalscorer' and that was his only involvement. 2) He spent the summer focused on our outgoing business and Andy Howe took over the incoming deal sheet. 3) When Ashley was owner, Nickson was a lone wolf but he now has a team and much more infrastructure yet 'he's never spent more time travelling'. That's all the guy was told and Nickson is apparently very guarded but I thought the Woltemade stuff, in particular, was interesting... A few twitter ITK’s claimed that Nickson had been downgraded to outgoings this summer. We were running threadbare in the summer and obviously jobs have to delegated, but it does concern me that someone like Nickson who had experience of negotiating would be sidelined by the Howe’s and in my opinion the results speak for themselves from the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It's kind odd, we had two outgoings for money (isak aside who was managed by the ownership of we believe the manager) and that was Dubs for a nominal fee and Longstaff who was a firesale because of his contract. Looks like Nickson was sidelined to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 If it's Nickson v Howe then Howe has to go for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: If it's Nickson v Howe then Howe has to go for me. I don't think it's like that tbh and even if it was it would never play out like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 48 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I can't give specific details but I know someone very close to Nickson. He said to me that Nickson never gives anything away regarding potential deals but will occasionally give a view after the player has signed or left. He told the person I know that: 1) He had not actively scouted Woltemade but was asked for his view on him as the deal was being negotiated. He told the club 'not to expect a prolific PL goalscorer' and that was his only involvement. 2) He spent the summer focused on our outgoing business and Andy Howe took over the incoming deal sheet. 3) When Ashley was owner, Nickson was a lone wolf but he now has a team and much more infrastructure yet 'he's never spent more time travelling'. That's all the guy was told and Nickson is apparently very guarded but I thought the Woltemade stuff, in particular, was interesting... I stand corrected if this is indeed true about his influence in transfers coming in. Odd mind that a guy with such a hit rate was moved to players going out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I don't think it's like that tbh and even if it was it would never play out like that. Sorry, that most definitely wasn't a serious post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The last few windows haven’t made a huge amount of sense, given Nickson’s track record. I would be backing him to the hilt and our summer window was pivotal on incomings. I know outgoings have been a major weakness for us but Nickson needed to be on incomings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Can we even afford to strengthen this January? We must be edging close to the PSR limit again and risk breaching the new spending-to-turnover regulations. With a 7-8th place sized budget, our squad is potentially at it's upper limit anyway unless we see a sustained, non-CL related increase in income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Can we even afford to strengthen this January? We must be edging close to the PSR limit again and risk breaching the new spending-to-turnover regulations. With a 7-8th place sized budget, our squad is potentially at it's upper limit anyway unless we see a sustained, non-CL related increase in income. I'd be amazed if we couldn't. Edited January 27 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 What was the point of selling Isak if it didn’t help us PSR wise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: What was the point of selling Isak if it didn’t help us PSR wise? That powder won't dry itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, who cares, it's better if he comes good than if he doesn't come good I care that the scouting is ineffective, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: What was the point of selling Isak if it didn’t help us PSR wise? I'm assuming the Isak money is spread over a few years, and we'll get then next £30-40m in the summer. Edited January 27 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, Weezertron said: I care that the scouting is ineffective, aye. Me too, but you seemed to be saying that it wouldn't matter even if the players started playing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: I'm assuming the Isak money is spread over a few years, and our outlay last summer was £200m+. Works the opposite way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It makes no sense to be in the position we are and not strengthen. Our scouting and transfer structure is so disjointed and makes little sense to me. Feels like a constant power struggle no matter who we have in post. But then again I said the same this time last year and we went on to win a cup and qualify for the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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