Krabbe2 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Of the clubs that will vote against this, I can quickly come up with Newcastle, Brighton, Bournemoth and City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Actually, thinking about it I think Ashworth spoke about it in public on purpose. This will either do one of two things 1) There is a permanent ban. We don't have any loans so no issue and we'll just follow the rules. It's more problematic for City, Brighton Chelsea etc 2) There is no ban. Then we can benefit by getting players from Saudi to cover injuries etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Krabbe2 said: Of the clubs that will vote against this, I can quickly come up with Newcastle, Brighton, Bournemoth and City. Probably Forest as well. Although the restriction only amounts to incoming loans not outgoing. Maybe some of these clubs won't mind that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Easy way to stop this is the PIF letting it be known that, if this goes through, they'll no long be interested in picking up players from the PL. Might make the likes of Man Utd & Liverpool reconsider when they suddenly lose the ability get 40+m for players who are well past it/they need to shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Better call Nick de Marco! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Haven’t Chelsea bought Strasbourg? 777 probably won’t like it either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Either way I think it’s unlikely we’d be doing any big loans from Saudi teams. I do think we may purchase from them (although maybe not this winter) - as you can argue the money that was paid for Gabi Vega was fair market value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Bournemouth/Lorient is the most blatant current one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Why not just a total ban then? That would then cut off that avenue for all clubs in the future including the likes of Liverpool etc and clubs looking at multi-club arrangements. No just a temporary ban a month before the transfer window opens…… I maintain that the ESL 5 (excluding Citeh) are boxing themselves into a corner trying to contain us, things like FFP are starting to affect them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I swear at some point we’re gonna’ sue the hell out of these clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: There has to be legal challenges to this. The PL can't just carry on making new rules when and how they like. The timeframes they have their "meetings" are so blatent. Guarantee Parish is pushing this hard too as he has a right agenda against us. I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 They're hilariously blatent. Since PIF came to the table we've had: The takeover blocked for over a year A temporary ban on recruiting new sponsors The associated party transaction rule and "fair market value" The loan deal block Not only are they telling a private entity how it can make its money, they're trying to dictate how it can spend it. I wouldn't want us to loan a player from the Saudi league, but now I kind of want us to do it and challenge them in court, just to be cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Surely we can raise this as collusion of some sort? Even if the 3 things put in place in spite of us have a reasonable argument, it just seems extremely targeted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I wouldn't want us to loan a player from the Saudi league, but now I kind of want us to do it and challenge them in court, just to be cunts. This is exactly where I'm at with it. Fucking sick of these cunts moving the goalposts now that we're disrupting things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I think we’ll just adapt in all honesty, the club seems to want to avoid acting in anyway that will get them sanctioned. I’d rather we didn’t act belligerently if we don’t need to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) How will this affect salahs move to Saudi at the end of the season? Anyway I'm not that arsed tbh. Could count on one hand the players I'd take from the Saudi league. And after half a season in a retirement home they'll probably take more than a month or 2 to catch up anyway Edited November 8, 2023 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Meh. Not arsed at all about that. Clubs owned by the same people shouldn't be able to chuck players around between them. Timing is obviously amusing like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 For PL rule changes if 7 clubs vote against the rules can’t be changed, if I remember correctly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Couldn’t give a fuck, they’re just delaying the inevitable. I’d prefer us to dislodge them all while playing by the rules, will be far funnier and more satisfying. It’s hilarious watching them shit themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, FloydianMag said: For PL rule changes if 7 clubs vote against the rules can’t be changed, if I remember correctly? Yeah, they need 14 clubs to vote for it to be passed City, Brighton, Bournemouth, Chelsea and ourselves will likely to vote against it, would need 2 more clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Aside from the fact that it disadvantages us, is there any reason why this is a bad rule to have on substance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, oldtype said: Aside from the fact that it disadvantages us, is there any reason why this is a bad rule to have on substance? I would say because it's a continuation of rules being put in place to stop any team from ever being able to challenge the "big 6" clubs. No club is ever going to organically grow to compete with them anymore and there is increasingly no way for owners to help clubs to challenge them. So it's just a closed shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Yeah, they need 14 clubs to vote for it to be passed City, Brighton, Bournemouth, Chelsea and ourselves will likely to vote against it, would need 2 more clubs Possibly Everton with their 777 takeover in the pipeline also I seem to remember that Burnley voted against the 'Fair market value' stipulation but i may have imagined that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, oldtype said: Aside from the fact that it disadvantages us, is there any reason why this is a bad rule to have on substance? No. But the timing reeks of desperation from the other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 They even brought in the rule of no more than one person in the technical area which suits klopp and arteta down to the ground as there never in the fucker anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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