STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 58 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: A constant narrative from the local press pack is that Howe prefers PL experience, the links to certain players is no coincidence and are players Howe clearly rates. I have no doubt if Howe was given the option right now of Connor Gallagher, McTominay, Phillips, Kone, or Thuram, he’d choose any of the first 3 mentioned. Like him as a coach but want him as far away from transfers as possible. Making stuff up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Nobody knows the clubs strategy on transfers, other than those involved, to suggest otherwise is a bit daft. I think we'll look for value, not necessarily British players, but I know fuck all about anything, so who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 We shamefully missed out on Botman, Tonali, Isak, and Bruno because of Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Pablo123 said: Nobody knows the clubs strategy on transfers, other than those involved, to suggest otherwise is a bit daft. I think we'll look for value, not necessarily British players, but I know fuck all about anything, so who knows. I know the clubs strategy.... its to sign quality players. Pope Isak Bruno Botman Livramento Trippier Tonali Gordon Barnes (I'm sure will come good in time) Burn (value for money at the very least)... Hall (hard to tell how it will work out but I could see what they were trying) Wood (A bit of a plank but it was clearly a short term fix) It begs belief that there is any doubt in our transfer strategy, after the years of shite we've been served up. Could we have tried to do something different around the Lewis Hall deal? Perhaps but even if it goes wrong, that's a decent strike rate on signings. We've had a tough season with injuries. That's it. That's what this is all about. Give us half the injuries and none of us having this discussion. (Not aimed at you Pablo). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, STM said: I know the clubs strategy.... its to sign quality players. Pope Isak Bruno Botman Livramento Trippier Tonali Gordon Barnes (I'm sure will come good in time) Burn (value for money at the very least)... Hall (hard to tell how it will work out but I could see what they were trying) Wood (A bit of a plank but it was clearly a short term fix) It begs belief that there is any doubt in our transfer strategy, after the years of shite we've been served up. Could we have tried to do something different around the Lewis Hall deal? Perhaps but even if it goes wrong, that's a decent strike rate on signings. We've had a tough season with injuries. That's it. That's what this is all about. Give us half the injuries and none of us having this discussion. (Not aimed at you Pablo). We have been very good in the market so far. I do still feel we could have had spent the money better in the summer, certainly feel we didn’t sign what we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, SUPERTOON said: We have been very good in the market so far. I do still feel we could have had spent the money better in the summer, certainly feel we didn’t sign what we needed. And that's a perfectly fair point. No issue with anyone saying perhaps we could have let's say gone for a RW rather than Barnes who plays mainly on the LW but I'd mitigate that by saying Howe and Co had no idea that Murphy would miss 3 months or that Barnes himself would have such an outrageous injury. Same with Tonali, perhaps there's an argument to say an orthodox DM would have been a better shout. My point was more aimed towards the "Howe wants British cloggers" brigade. Which there's absolutely no substance to other than supposition, conjecture and the odd article which talks about him wanting PL experience. We've signed 12 players, 7 of which have come from domestic clubs. Added to that Howe couldn't believe his luck when he was told he could get Tonali (that's words from his mouth). Some are talking absolute shite on this topic and it's tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Trippier, Burn, Wood, Pope, Gordon, Hall, Tino, McTominay, Barnes, Phillips, Solanke, and Gallagher obviously all pushed by Howe. Bruno, Botman, Carlos, Isak, Tonali, Barella, Diomande, and Dragusin all found by Nickson/Ashworth. Howe’s xenophobic transfer dealings are tearing the St. James’ Park backroom apart to the point that any foreign player has to be discussed covertly. (The funny thing is the ones we actually signed in the first group have largely worked out well and provided good value) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, timeEd32 said: Trippier, Burn, Wood, Pope, Gordon, Hall, Tino, McTominay, Barnes, Phillips, Solanke, and Gallagher obviously all pushed by Howe. Bruno, Botman, Carlos, Isak, Tonali, Barella, Diomande, and Dragusin all found by Nickson/Ashworth. Howe’s xenophobic transfer dealings are tearing the St. James’ Park backroom apart to the point that any foreign player has to be discussed covertly. (The funny thing is the ones we actually signed in the first group have largely worked out well and provided good value) I'm presuming this is satire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, STM said: I know the clubs strategy.... its to sign quality players. Pope Isak Bruno Botman Livramento Trippier Tonali Gordon Barnes (I'm sure will come good in time) Burn (value for money at the very least)... Hall (hard to tell how it will work out but I could see what they were trying) Wood (A bit of a plank but it was clearly a short term fix) It begs belief that there is any doubt in our transfer strategy, after the years of shite we've been served up. Could we have tried to do something different around the Lewis Hall deal? Perhaps but even if it goes wrong, that's a decent strike rate on signings. We've had a tough season with injuries. That's it. That's what this is all about. Give us half the injuries and none of us having this discussion. (Not aimed at you Pablo). My comment was aimed at potential sales and people thinking Howe just likes to buy British players. I don't think we know if Howe has much say. I agree with what you're saying. I think we've bought very well, tbh. I've got complete trust in Howe and our transfer strategy. Like you say, we've been dry humped up the Gary with our injuries this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, STM said: I'm presuming this is satire? Ha, yes. It’s a fucking outrageous narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, TRon said: Just read in one of the papers again today how McTominay suits our ethos being tall and physical. In fairness it is two things EH looks for in a player. Not saying it’s his ultimate aim/priority but he does want a physically dominating team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 We just can't sell British players and sign foreigners, no matter the value in the two respective markets. We need UK trained players for the PL quotas, and the European ones. That's why we've bought a good core of British players, nothing to do with the manager not being able to see beyond these shores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: We just can't sell British players and sign foreigners, no matter the value in the two respective markets. We need UK trained players for the PL quotas, and the European ones. That's why we've bought a good core of British players, nothing to do with the manager not being able to see beyond these shores. Shhh, you'll spoil clueless people's fume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) The key is a mix. We've been down the "French day" route, ultimately you end up with a soulless team of players who don't understand the culture of the club and have far less investment in how things pan out for the team, largely because if things go tits up they can just call their agent and do a body swerve back home. On the other hand, we don't want a Steve Bruce or Kevin Nolan style "lads" culture, where by as long as you are a "good honest pro" or whatever you will get a game. Do your research, are they a good player? are they a good character? are the committed for the medium term, at least? Try and find value in the foreign market but also don't be afraid to splash on good young English players. You can't go far wrong. Edited January 21 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 If you asked Eddie Howe for three CM targets, of course he's going to name three PL players. He watches the league week in, week out and will have analysed each of those three thoroughly & be well aware of their strengths, weaknesses, areas of potential improvement. He's not going to name some unpolished diamond from Ligue 2. What he has shown is that he will listen to the likes of Steve Nickson and will certainly welcome signings from anywhere provided he thinks they can play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Keegans Export said: If you asked Eddie Howe for three CM targets, of course he's going to name three PL players. He watches the league week in, week out and will have analysed each of those three thoroughly & be well aware of their strengths, weaknesses, areas of potential improvement. He's not going to name some unpolished diamond from Ligue 2. What he has shown is that he will listen to the likes of Steve Nickson and will certainly welcome signings from anywhere provided he thinks they can play. I don't even think that's true though. The Eddie Howe I know is well aware of alot European talent. Might help that his Nephew is a scout mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, STM said: I don't even think that's true though. The Eddie Howe I know is well aware of alot European talent. Might help that his Nephew is a scout mind. I'm sure he is aware but he isn't going to have the time mid-season to do a load of scouting, he'll (quite rightly) rely on the scouts to add to any shortlists we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: A constant narrative from the local press pack is that Howe prefers PL experience, the links to certain players is no coincidence and are players Howe clearly rates. I have no doubt if Howe was given the option right now of Connor Gallagher, McTominay, Phillips, Kone, or Thuram, he’d choose any of the first 3 mentioned. Like him as a coach but want him as far away from transfers as possible. Pretty sure those first 3 mentioned could have been signed for Tonali money like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 If we exclude Howe's first transfer market, which was largely needs must and Ashworth hadn't yet been appointed, the only player you could argue was an average British player is Targett, but he'd been largely excellent during his loan spell. The jury is still out on Hall and Barnes, but one is a highly thought of Cobham youth product and the other has an excellent Premier League record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I just prefer we target more technical, creative players tbh. Not bothered what league we get them from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Shit source, but a rumour is a rumour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Wonder if Nurnberg will let us take him on trial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, STM said: Making stuff up. He clearly prefers PL experience where have 4 of the last 5 signings come from ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: He clearly prefers PL experience where have 4 of the last 5 signings come from ? You planning on dying on this hill then? I am just going to assume that you're winding everyone up at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: You planning on dying on this hill then? I am just going to assume that you're winding everyone up at this point. What’s incorrect about what I stated, disregard Minteh who was a development signing, 4 of last 5 signings are from the PL fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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