Guest Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Willock is a weird one. I'd love to keep him but if his body is going to start giving up on him playing the way we do, he might be one we could sell. Someone like Everton, Palace, etc might think £30m-ish would be worth it? Reinvest in someone with a record of playing regularly in this sort of system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Don't see why we'd be in any rush to jettison the majority of those. This season has demonstrated just how crucial it is to have depth. If Miggy goes for instance I wouldn't be letting Murphy go anywhere. Krafth just signed a new contract. Willock, no chance, and I doubt we'll be able to give Wilson away. Dubravka I'm sure we'll try to keep because Karius is going. Targett seems plausible because the move has been a disaster for him, astronomical wage rumours notwithstanding. The Miggy to Saudi to thing may re-emerge. Beyond that it'll be the deadwood and Bruno imo. The Wilson one is interesting as his stock is at an absolute all time low. If he doesnt somehow tear his pec we probably aren't talking about this. Targett is also has incredibly low stock right now. Longstaff a year ago this forum mentioned him for England, now he is 8th choice CM, we have done a shocking job at selling assets when their stock is high. As much as I'd hate it, the right move is to sell Joelinton while his stock is high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Can't sell our deadwood cause no one will buy them. Can't sell our mediocre players cause we need squad depth. Can't sell our purples cause we need them for where we're hoping to be. We're fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 25 minutes ago, TRC said: The Wilson one is interesting as his stock is at an absolute all time low. If he doesnt somehow tear his pec we probably aren't talking about this. Targett is also has incredibly low stock right now. Longstaff a year ago this forum mentioned him for England, now he is 8th choice CM, we have done a shocking job at selling assets when their stock is high. As much as I'd hate it, the right move is to sell Joelinton while his stock is high. Not a chance i'd sell Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 My view: Sell Wilson: If you are a side desperate to stay in this league Calum Wilson is the gamble worth taking, 10/12m for a player who guarantees goals is a no brainer. "Yeah but he's a crock" I hear you say... it doesn't matter. If you get half a season out of him, he will get you 10 goals, that could be the difference between survival or not. He's worth the fee, he's worth the wages. Although I reckon he ends up at West Ham. I have no idea why. Sell Miggy: Saudi will be back. Reckon we could squeeze 18m out of them and i think the time is right for everyone. Sell Targett: I'm not buying the rumours that he's on huge wages, not that I think his wages will be small either but if we sell him for a small enough fee, he's a very good left back for a bottom half side... Forest, Wolves, maybe a Leicester on the way up. We might get 5m. There's 35m of FFP wriggle room potentially IMO. Players not to sell: Isak Tonali Bruno Joelinton Botman Pope Gordon Tino Barnes The rest are fair game for the right price, including Willock. We need to be ruthless and prepared to reinvest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: Not a chance i'd sell Joelinton. Lets say we need to raise £20m or we break PSR, I think its the easiest way. We are getting cents on the dollar for Miggy, Wilson, Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, STM said: My view: Sell Wilson: If you are a side desperate to stay in this league Calum Wilson is the gamble worth taking, 10/12m for a player who guarantees goals is a no brainer. "Yeah but he's a crock" I hear you say... it doesn't matter. If you get half a season out of him, he will get you 10 goals, that could be the difference between survival or not. He's worth the fee, he's worth the wages. Although I reckon he ends up at West Ham. I have no idea why. Sell Miggy: Saudi will be back. Reckon we could squeeze 18m out of them and i think the time is right for everyone. Sell Targett: I'm not buying the rumours that he's on huge wages, not that I think his wages will be small either but if we sell him for a small enough fee, he's a very good left back for a bottom half side... Forest, Wolves, maybe a Leicester on the way up. We might get 5m. There's 35m of FFP wriggle room potentially IMO. Players not to sell: Isak Tonali Bruno Joelinton Botman Pope Gordon Tino Barnes The rest are fair game for the right price, including Willock. We need to be ruthless and prepared to reinvest. 100% this. I think the poor showing of Sheffield United this season and Burnley to a lesser extent shows promoted clubs that a Premier league standard striker is worth spending 10-15 million on to assist staying in the division. I think if Leeds get promoted they could be in for Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 9 minutes ago, Funtime Frankie said: 100% this. I think the poor showing of Sheffield United this season and Burnley to a lesser extent shows promoted clubs that a Premier league standard striker is worth spending 10-15 million on to assist staying in the division. I think if Leeds get promoted they could be in for Wilson. And they love crock prone strikers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, LFEE said: Joey Veerman of PSV any good? @Unbelievable Ooh, tough one. Good technical player, but a bit too lightweight for the PL I think. Probably better suited to La Liga I’d say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 35 minutes ago, TRC said: Lets say we need to raise £20m or we break PSR, I think its the easiest way. We are getting cents on the dollar for Miggy, Wilson, Longstaff. I'd like to think that if things get that tight we've got 3 or 4 moderately low sponsorship deals (or maybe 1 really big one for the kit sponsor?) ready to be pulled out of the bag - all of which are ridiculously front-loaded to give us the cash asap. Selling to stick to PSR is still a thing and I get why we need to move players on but selling purples should be the absolute last resort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Willock is a weird one. I'd love to keep him but if his body is going to start giving up on him playing the way we do, he might be one we could sell. Someone like Everton, Palace, etc might think £30m-ish would be worth it? Reinvest in someone with a record of playing regularly in this sort of system. It's going to become increasingly difficult to sell high value within the Premier League, given PSR is nuking the demand. Can Everton buy anyone? The margin for error on transfers is contracting, and it's making clubs more careful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) Wilson only ‘guarantees’ goals in the right system, in terms of promoted sides taking a chance some wouldn’t get the best out of him.. Burnley wouldn’t bother. His physicality is limited now, he needs service without the expectation of pressing/defending from the central position. Otherwise you just end up with the same injured version of him that we have. If he didn’t have that massive competitive streak in him I’d expect him to go Saudi, and he might even so because some offers are to good to turn down when money like that is dangled in front of a player that is on the decline. Edited April 10 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I think we can probably move Krafth on for a nominal fee, but really we would have saved a few million by letting Dummet and Ritchie leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, STM said: My view: Sell Wilson: If you are a side desperate to stay in this league Calum Wilson is the gamble worth taking, 10/12m for a player who guarantees goals is a no brainer. "Yeah but he's a crock" I hear you say... it doesn't matter. If you get half a season out of him, he will get you 10 goals, that could be the difference between survival or not. He's worth the fee, he's worth the wages. Although I reckon he ends up at West Ham. I have no idea why. Sell Miggy: Saudi will be back. Reckon we could squeeze 18m out of them and i think the time is right for everyone. Sell Targett: I'm not buying the rumours that he's on huge wages, not that I think his wages will be small either but if we sell him for a small enough fee, he's a very good left back for a bottom half side... Forest, Wolves, maybe a Leicester on the way up. We might get 5m. There's 35m of FFP wriggle room potentially IMO. Players not to sell: Isak Tonali Bruno Joelinton Botman Pope Gordon Tino Barnes The rest are fair game for the right price, including Willock. We need to be ruthless and prepared to reinvest. Weird you’ve omitted our best CB and our most creative player off that list, but whatevs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 3 hours ago, Nepharite said: Always wary of players who look good in the Eredivisie as the defending, on the whole is atrocious. Well he’s got 8 full caps. Compare to Botman. Sounds good enough to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Willock is a weird one. I'd love to keep him but if his body is going to start giving up on him playing the way we do, he might be one we could sell. Someone like Everton, Palace, etc might think £30m-ish would be worth it? Reinvest in someone with a record of playing regularly in this sort of system. I wouldn't sell Willock, after the first choice CM of Linton-Bruno-Tonali he'd be the first one to come into the side. He's been a victim of poor management of his injuries, being so short of players this season we've rushed him back and he's never been anywhere near match fit when he has played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 If we were to sell Willock I'd want atleast 50 million for him. He's still quite young he's English plus he's been in good form last season. I mean jwp went for that and I rate Willock more than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, TRC said: Lets say we need to raise £20m or we break PSR, I think its the easiest way. We are getting cents on the dollar for Miggy, Wilson, Longstaff. break PSR. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Let's just sell Miggy for £100 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 18 minutes ago, andycap said: If we were to sell Willock I'd want atleast 50 million for him. He's still quite young he's English plus he's been in good form last season. I mean jwp went for that and I rate Willock more than him. JWP didn't go for £50mil like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 You have to feel sorry for Willock, he is rushed back and playing despite clearly not being 100% fit to support the team, which is impacting his ability to both recover and get his fitness back and all he gets for it is fans wanting him sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 If they stay up (likely) then I see Wilson going to Bournemouth with Solanke leaving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, andycap said: If we were to sell Willock I'd want atleast 50 million for him. He's still quite young he's English plus he's been in good form last season. I mean jwp went for that and I rate Willock more than him. JWP was around 30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 19 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: You have to feel sorry for Willock, he is rushed back and playing despite clearly not being 100% fit to support the team, which is impacting his ability to both recover and get his fitness back and all he gets for it is fans wanting him sold. I think it's more to do with fans understanding the need for a PSR fix and Willock being actually worth some money and being expendable. I doubt many actually want Willock to be sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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