Willow Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I've always liked Ramsdale and think he'd be a quality addition, no matter how he'd be used. It seems like I'm in the minority though. If we can get him for under £20m I think that'd be a sound investment, seeing Dubs and Karius are off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 21 minutes ago, arnonel said: Like a "defender"? No like a goal keeper. Its pretty much a unique position to play in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 56 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Could we avoid the injury prone please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ramsdale links are confusing - Pope is better (and back), and unfortunately we don't have the luxury to expend 25 million on a backup keeper when we're lacking in so many areas in the starting XI. I do hope Howe and co. will wise up and stop paying the PL tax and look internationally. It's no coincidence our best business has been non-domestic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Upthemags said: Ramsdale links are confusing - Pope is better (and back), and unfortunately we don't have the luxury to expend 25 million on a backup keeper when we're lacking in so many areas in the starting XI. I do hope Howe and co. will wise up and stop paying the PL tax and look internationally. It's no coincidence our best business has been non-domestic. Not sure how we're classifying Trippier, but Gordon, Pope, Tino, and Burn all excellent business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, timeEd32 said: Not sure how we're classifying Trippier, but Gordon, Pope, Tino, and Burn all excellent business. Best business, by a long shot, has been Bruno and Isak, two world class players, both of whom were international. That's not to say the domestic business hasn't been impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 44 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Eh? Neuer is/was class with the ball. You are thinking of Ederson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) After getting one or two CBs, my #1 priority would be a striker. We went into most games this season with only one fit striker, which seems unacceptable to me for a team vying for top 4 and competing in Europe. Edited May 20 by BermyToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Slim said: You are thinking of Ederson I’m not. He’s arguably the best there has ever been in terms of playing out from the back. Certainly the player who takes the most risks and is most compfortable in the ball. To the point where it’s almost meme worthy. Edited May 20 by Rafalove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Sure Pep was gonna play neuer centre mid for bayern after they'd already won the league. He's quality on the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 https://www.squawka.com/en/pep-guardiola-manuel-neuer-midfield-bayern-munich/?amp Pep Guardiola genuinely attempted to play Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in midfield in a Bundesliga match, according to Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Guardiola, 49, presided over three years at the Allianz Arena between 2013 and 2016, during which time he won three consecutive Bundesliga titles. Neuer played a key part of those successes between the sticks, though it is being claimed Guardiola felt he could be influential elsewhere. Why would Pep try to play Neuer outfield? Five things to know… Neuer initially signed up to Schalke’s youth academy (at a very young age) as a striker. In 2011, he eventually left Schalke for Bayern, where he was Guardiola’s first-choice goalkeeper between 2013 and 2016. The Germany international is renowned for his ball-playing ability, composure in possession and distribution; he has averaged 25.6 successful passes per 90 minutes in the Champions League since the start of the 2016/17 season. Neuer is also considered modern football’s archetypal ‘sweeper-keeper’, willing to venture outside his box. The most famous example of this notion came during Germany’s 2-1 win over Algeria at the 2014 World Cup (heatmap below), which they ultimately won. Pep Guardiola genuinely attempted to play Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in midfield in a Bundesliga match, according to Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Guardiola, 49, presided over three years at the Allianz Arena between 2013 and 2016, during which time he won three consecutive Bundesliga titles. Neuer played a key part of those successes between the sticks, though it is being claimed Guardiola felt he could be influential elsewhere. Why would Pep try to play Neuer outfield? Five things to know… Neuer initially signed up to Schalke’s youth academy (at a very young age) as a striker. In 2011, he eventually left Schalke for Bayern, where he was Guardiola’s first-choice goalkeeper between 2013 and 2016. The Germany international is renowned for his ball-playing ability, composure in possession and distribution; he has averaged 25.6 successful passes per 90 minutes in the Champions League since the start of the 2016/17 season. Neuer is also considered modern football’s archetypal ‘sweeper-keeper’, willing to venture outside his box. The most famous example of this notion came during Germany’s 2-1 win over Algeria at the 2014 World Cup (heatmap below), which they ultimately won. Guardiola isn’t the only coach who feels Neuer can play midfield… This is not the first time those close to Neuer have waxed lyrical about his ability to play further up the pitch. In 2014, Germany boss Joachim Low made the claim that his No. 1 shot-stopper was so good from a technical standpoint that he could seamlessly slot into his midfield. He said: “Manuel Neuer has the same technical skills as the others, he could play in the midfield, he also has great awareness and that’s why we are happy for him to take these risks, and that’s why he’s so valuable. “He can basically be a player behind the defence.” After years of struggling with injury problems following Guardiola’s departure, Neuer has re-established his position as Bayern’s first-choice ‘keeper, and his performances will go a long way to helping his side clinch an eighth successive Bundesliga title. This is one of the closest title races in recent Bundesliga memory with just three points separating first from fourth, but Bayern currently lead the charge and are 4/9* favourites to bring up a record 30 German top-flight triumphs with William Hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 minutes ago, Rafalove said: https://www.squawka.com/en/pep-guardiola-manuel-neuer-midfield-bayern-munich/?amp Pep Guardiola genuinely attempted to play Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in midfield in a Bundesliga match, according to Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Guardiola, 49, presided over three years at the Allianz Arena between 2013 and 2016, during which time he won three consecutive Bundesliga titles. Neuer played a key part of those successes between the sticks, though it is being claimed Guardiola felt he could be influential elsewhere. Why would Pep try to play Neuer outfield? Five things to know… Neuer initially signed up to Schalke’s youth academy (at a very young age) as a striker. In 2011, he eventually left Schalke for Bayern, where he was Guardiola’s first-choice goalkeeper between 2013 and 2016. The Germany international is renowned for his ball-playing ability, composure in possession and distribution; he has averaged 25.6 successful passes per 90 minutes in the Champions League since the start of the 2016/17 season. Neuer is also considered modern football’s archetypal ‘sweeper-keeper’, willing to venture outside his box. The most famous example of this notion came during Germany’s 2-1 win over Algeria at the 2014 World Cup (heatmap below), which they ultimately won. Pep Guardiola genuinely attempted to play Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in midfield in a Bundesliga match, according to Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Guardiola, 49, presided over three years at the Allianz Arena between 2013 and 2016, during which time he won three consecutive Bundesliga titles. Neuer played a key part of those successes between the sticks, though it is being claimed Guardiola felt he could be influential elsewhere. Why would Pep try to play Neuer outfield? Five things to know… Neuer initially signed up to Schalke’s youth academy (at a very young age) as a striker. In 2011, he eventually left Schalke for Bayern, where he was Guardiola’s first-choice goalkeeper between 2013 and 2016. The Germany international is renowned for his ball-playing ability, composure in possession and distribution; he has averaged 25.6 successful passes per 90 minutes in the Champions League since the start of the 2016/17 season. Neuer is also considered modern football’s archetypal ‘sweeper-keeper’, willing to venture outside his box. The most famous example of this notion came during Germany’s 2-1 win over Algeria at the 2014 World Cup (heatmap below), which they ultimately won. Guardiola isn’t the only coach who feels Neuer can play midfield… This is not the first time those close to Neuer have waxed lyrical about his ability to play further up the pitch. In 2014, Germany boss Joachim Low made the claim that his No. 1 shot-stopper was so good from a technical standpoint that he could seamlessly slot into his midfield. He said: “Manuel Neuer has the same technical skills as the others, he could play in the midfield, he also has great awareness and that’s why we are happy for him to take these risks, and that’s why he’s so valuable. “He can basically be a player behind the defence.” After years of struggling with injury problems following Guardiola’s departure, Neuer has re-established his position as Bayern’s first-choice ‘keeper, and his performances will go a long way to helping his side clinch an eighth successive Bundesliga title. This is one of the closest title races in recent Bundesliga memory with just three points separating first from fourth, but Bayern currently lead the charge and are 4/9* favourites to bring up a record 30 German top-flight triumphs with William Hill. Pretty sure you're thinking of Alisson tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Very possible he’s confusing him with Schar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Willow said: I've always liked Ramsdale and think he'd be a quality addition, no matter how he'd be used. It seems like I'm in the minority though. If we can get him for under £20m I think that'd be a sound investment, seeing Dubs and Karius are off I'm with you. There was a time not so long ago that quite a few wanted him as england number 1. It's not a big gamble, certainly at that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I don’t want Ramsdale but 15 million would be a decent deal. However I don’t see anyway Arsenal sell to us for that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I don’t want Ramsdale but 15 million would be a decent deal. However I don’t see anyway Arsenal sell to us for that price. Reckon 15m with a few performance related add ons would get a deal done and suit all parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Rafalove said: I’m not. He’s arguably the best there has ever been in terms of playing out from the back. Certainly the player who takes the most risks and is most compfortable in the ball. To the point where it’s almost meme worthy. Honestly you are. Its an easy mistake to make tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 At some point it seems like a no brainer to go back and get Armstrong and Woodman as squad fillers. Dunno if either is ready to ride the bench though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 That Neuer video is underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Think Ramsdale is better than most will give him credit for as he is a bit of knob. If we want to transition to a more possession based team having a keeper good with their feet is important. Pope is no doubt a top keeper in most areas but his control of the ball and kicking is arguably the worst in the league. With how many sides press high up now it's a massive disadvantage having a keeper who will shank it out of play everytime you play it back to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Is he really that good with his feet though? I distinctly remember him being specifically targeted by our press, particularly by Miggy in the 2-0 home game at the back end of Eddie's first season here. He had an absolute 'mare that night if my memory serves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Is he really that good with his feet though? I distinctly remember him being specifically targeted by our press, particularly by Miggy in the 2-0 home game at the back end of Eddie's first season here. He had an absolute 'mare that night if my memory serves While that's a good point..... imagine us pressing Nick Pope in the same fashion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) A prem proven GK at £15m would be outrageous value, especially if it means we add an extra 20m to the outfield budget. We can always revisit that position when our income warrants it. Edit: all rides on whether that valuations is right, obviously. I'm thinking not. Edited May 20 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Still confused with the Ramsdale links. - He isn't coming here to swap one bench for another. - He isn't better than Pope - If Pope is off we can surely get someone better than Ramsdale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Deuce said: At some point it seems like a no brainer to go back and get Armstrong and Woodman as squad fillers. Dunno if either is ready to ride the bench though. I was a keen follower of Armstrong's development, but he doesn't seem cut for the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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