KaKa Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 32 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: It's pretty important if you play with one man upfront, I'd say, but I bow down to your vastly superior knowledge. I don't think any other team in the top 8 would take him. I like his all-round game, he's a handful, but I'd keep Wilson if he was the alternative. It was the reason a number of teams passed on Isak. It isn't the be all and end all, especially when a player is in a poor team, and has shown much better numbers when the team was better. Agree to disagree though. Let's see how things pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Weezertron said: Kinda sucks that we're having to look at players that we need to get back to their best. I'd prefer players who are in the early stages of their upwards curve. If this is the only way we can get around PSR then I guess so be it. It goes without saying PSR is probably holding us back by a few years in development because we have to make do and mend until our spend limit is increased. We'd be regular CL certs already without the financial constraints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Weezertron said: Kinda sucks that we're having to look at players that we need to get back to their best. I'd prefer players who are in the early stages of their upwards curve. If this is the only way we can get around PSR then I guess so be it. We're not as far as I'm aware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 4 hours ago, 54 said: So far our recruitment team haven't really missed since the takeover. So while I personally wouldn't go for DCL, I will back it. That said this link doesn't feel concrete, and a bit deflecty. Harvey Barnes has been a very cut and dried miss at 40 million... Stands to make up for his lack of fitness and performance in seasons to come but as of right now, a very poor piece of business with Diaby and Maddison going for around the same price tag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 5 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Harvey Barnes has been a very cut and dried miss at 40 million... Stands to make up for his lack of fitness and performance in seasons to come but as of right now, a very poor piece of business with Diaby and Maddison going for around the same price tag I think we've been proven correct in not going for Maddisin and Diaby, granted both are good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 11 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Harvey Barnes has been a very cut and dried miss at 40 million... Stands to make up for his lack of fitness and performance in seasons to come but as of right now, a very poor piece of business with Diaby and Maddison going for around the same price tag Strange take. For one thing, Barnes has missed a huge chunk of the season through injury, think we'll have a better idea next season of how he's going to be. Writing him off so soon is blinkered. As for the 2 you mentioned, Madison didn't want to come and Diaby has been largely poor when i've seen him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, The Prophet said: I think we've been proven correct in not going for Maddisin and Diaby, granted both are good players. Definitely an interesting take - especially in a season where another win gets us European football. Both comfortably out-produced barnes, stayed on the pitch for the most part, and both would have offered upgrades in positions we needed upgrades in (as opposed to a co-pilot for Anthony Gordon). I'm all for glass half full assessments, and I agree transfer business has been (very) good under Eddie and co., but certainly room for improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Upthemags said: Definitely an interesting take - especially in a season where another win gets us European football. Both comfortably out-produced barnes, stayed on the pitch for the most part, and both would have offered upgrades in positions we needed upgrades in (as opposed to a co-pilot for Anthony Gordon). I'm all for glass half full assessments, and I agree transfer business has been (very) good under Eddie and co., but certainly room for improvement. That tends to happen when you miss most of the season through injury. Creation and goal scoring hasn't really been an issue this season though and it certainly isn't the reason we missed out on 6th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: That tends to happen when you miss most of the season through injury. Creation and goal scoring hasn't really been an issue this season though and it certainly isn't the reason we missed out on 6th. Correct - remember Anthony Gordon's take from a couple months ago: the best ability is availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Brown Wears skirts Owns at least one handbag he's quite a lad's lad, that @toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 No excuse keeping Ritchie and Dummett now every cloud n that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 what does the conference league get you? nearly £5m? we still could have done with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, huss9 said: what does the conference league get you? nearly £5m? we still could have done with that. Couldve also given an injury to Isak/Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Think we should just go all out and throw money at it regardless of FFP/PSR rules. UEFA will show that Chelsea not complying will not result in them being thrown out, and Everton, and Forest have largely got off lightly. We could easily make up 12 points or so they will deduct with good signings. 1 more season failing to qualify for Europe and at worst a mid table finish, for years of setting us up. Just fucking go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, huss9 said: what does the conference league get you? nearly £5m? we still could have done with that. About £20m all in for winning when you chuck in match income plus the rumoured sponsorship add ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Time for Kieran and Almiron to take a journey to Saudi Arabia - will be disappointed if we don't get some clear-cut upgrades in this summer. No more depth buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 13 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Time for Kieran and Almiron to take a journey to Saudi Arabia - will be disappointed if we don't get some clear-cut upgrades in this summer. No more depth buys. No Europe makes the focus the first 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 We can surely afford to be a lot more ruthless now, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: No Europe makes the focus the first 11. Absolutely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Clutching but perhaps today's outcome resharpens minds on the transfer front. Both ins and outs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Rich said: We can surely afford to be a lot more ruthless now, like. Yep. Offers of any sorts for the following and they should be off: Dubravka Lewis Targett Almiron Hayden Fraser Wilson Plus those out of contract can all go: Ritchie Dummett Karius Hendrick Sure I’ll have forgotten some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 We may need to rethink our transfer strategy after missing out on Europe. I’d been told, on pretty good authority (one person removed from the player himself), that Bruno has been told that if we qualify for Europe that we wouldn’t need to sell him (based on current strategy) and he doesn’t want to go. Quite how this now unfolds will be interesting, do we try and offload some other players we weren’t planning to release, do we revise our list of targets to save money? One thing that is now likely to happen is that Clubs will be looking to unsettle the likes of Bruno and Isak with the attraction of European football and it’s something we can’t offer to prospective targets. I think it’s a bigger blow than it may look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Rich said: We can surely afford to be a lot more ruthless now, like. You've just given me a reason to find a positive in this season after all. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) I don’t think qualifying for ELC will have any impact on Isak’s situation (unless he agitates a move). Regarding Bruno it might muddy the waters a bit. We've signed quality players before without Europe and we will again. It probably does affect some targets but all in all I don’t think it’ll be a terrible disaster. For the overall club development it definitely would’ve been better though. Being entirely optimistic our chances of top four are probably strengthened next season. Edited May 25 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: We may need to rethink our transfer strategy after missing out on Europe. I’d been told, on pretty good authority (one person removed from the player himself), that Bruno has been told that if we qualify for Europe that we wouldn’t need to sell him (based on current strategy) and he doesn’t want to go. Quite how this now unfolds will be interesting, do we try and offload some other players we weren’t planning to release, do we revise our list of targets to save money? One thing that is now likely to happen is that Clubs will be looking to unsettle the likes of Bruno and Isak with the attraction of European football and it’s something we can’t offer to prospective targets. I think it’s a bigger blow than it may look. Sure, but its a miggy cup. The league place next year is much more importent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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