Harvey Barnes

[AyeDubbleYoo]

29 minutes ago, TRC said:

Bruno is a top level 6, but hes even better advanced imo. All of our CMs best position is the 8, thats poor recruitment.

 

Both of those fullbacks are playing but Lewis Hall was not worth the money at the time, investment was needed else where. Especially Hall when Livra can also play LB.

Doesn’t seem that bad if Bruno is a top 6 and the others are best at 8. Actually it seems pretty good. 
 

Hall was a superb signing and both him and Tino were two of the countries highest-rated youngsters. I don’t get this line of thinking at all. If we didn’t have Hall we’d be desperate for a LB and if we didn’t have Tino we’d be playing Krafth at RB. 
 

Just enjoy our signings man. Because we haven’t solved every issue yet doesn’t mean we haven’t done some really good business. 
 

People really must have blocked out how shite our squad used to be. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

22 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Howay Ian, man.  It's more than that and you know it.

Aye I know, but at the same time I don’t see many tactical breakdowns of how a dedicated DM would work with our system and style of play.

 

I’m sure there are merits to both approaches but Bruno is brilliant at what he does in that position. 

[TRC]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Doesn’t seem that bad if Bruno is a top 6 and the others are best at 8. Actually it seems pretty good. 
 

Hall was a superb signing and both him and Tino were two of the countries highest-rated youngsters. I don’t get this line of thinking at all. If we didn’t have Hall we’d be desperate for a LB and if we didn’t have Tino we’d be playing Krafth at RB. 
 

Just enjoy our signings man. Because we haven’t solved every issue yet doesn’t mean we haven’t done some really good business. 
 

People really must have blocked out how shite our squad used to be. 

Livra, Kelly and Burn can all play LB.

 

I just think we need some ability in the final third, moving Bruno there would have been ideal he was great there the year we stayed up and has said its his preferred position.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, TRC said:

Livra, Kelly and Burn can all play LB.

 

I just think we need some ability in the final third, moving Bruno there would have been ideal he was great there the year we stayed up and has said its his preferred position.

Yes but not very well and not as well as Hall. And we didn’t have Kelly when we signed Hall. 
 

Beggars belief that signing someone as talented as Hall is somehow bad. 
 

We can’t do anything right at the moment. The season has got off to a difficult start and we’ve all become emo about everything NUFC has done. 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We have so many debates where we act like something doesn’t make sense when the explanation is fairly easy to see. 
 

Not that we always have to agree, but it’s weird to act like there’s somehow no reasoning behind it. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

No everything is incredibly obvious. Football is littered with panaceas and NUFC is staffed by serial dummies.

[HaydnNUFC]

16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Aye I know, but at the same time I don’t see many tactical breakdowns of how a dedicated DM would work with our system and style of play.

 

I’m sure there are merits to both approaches but Bruno is brilliant at what he does in that position. 

 

It limits him at being brilliant further forward more often which can give us another dimension in our attacking play (as seen on Saturday with the pass for Isak's 1v1 amongst others) but it doesn't happen as often as it could/should. A DM would unlock him more to be able to do that whilst simultaneously providing defensive cover. The most ideal midfield 3 imo would be a DM at the base with Bruno and Tonali as the 8s*. They would then be able to interchange with Willock and Miley when they are back up to speed. It's a road of playstyle evolution we could've went down which would've improved us imo, but chose not to.

 

*football hipster wanker term, but you know what I mean

 

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by HaydnNUFC

[nufcjmc]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We have so many debates where we act like something doesn’t make sense when the explanation is fairly easy to see. 
 

Not that we always have to agree, but it’s weird to act like there’s somehow no reasoning behind it. 

Agree with the sentiment and plugging for positivity as its not been "THAT" bad. The main criticism i see is we had a finite amount of money and a squad that needed money sprinkled on it everywhere even if that meant not being able to get marquee players everywhere and after a fair few windows we have positions that have yet to he addressed. Weaknesses in some of the play is also still here from last season despite return of players. The comment from Howe in the summer that very few players could improve us just seems laughable really. As we all know as most teams Improve year on year staying still is the same as going backwards. 

[Collage]

On 19/10/2024 at 19:06, jigen said:

Good player. But too similar to Gordon. You have two physical LW, powerful and very direct but with little creativity.

What is the point to spend 40m for a clone of Gordon and then playing with Murphy on the right? 

I think they're quite different. Gordon's got good technique, can do things with the ball, go past his man.
Barnes is a wide forward who should run into space and be at the end of attacks, very good finisher.

[TRon]

59 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Yes but not very well and not as well as Hall. And we didn’t have Kelly when we signed Hall. 
 

Beggars belief that signing someone as talented as Hall is somehow bad. 
 

We can’t do anything right at the moment. The season has got off to a difficult start and we’ve all become emo about everything NUFC has done. 

 

 

That's because we had a relatively easy start so really we would have wanted to be about 4pts better off than where we are. The early points papered over some cracks, but most of us will take that all day. Now we are playing better stuff but can't get the results because we keep fucking up at both ends of the pitch. Hopefully we'll click sooner rather than later, but I think Howe himself would be disappointed where we are currently sitting.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

8 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

That's because we had a relatively easy start so really we would have wanted to be about 4pts better off than where we are. The early points papered over some cracks, but most of us will take that all day. Now we are playing better stuff but can't get the results because we keep fucking up at both ends of the pitch. Hopefully we'll click sooner rather than later, but I think Howe himself would be disappointed where we are currently sitting.

True but not sure I would say it papered over cracks when everyone saw the cracks and talked about them constantly

[TRon]

Not sure what we paid for him, but at the moment, looks to be another depreciating asset.

[pubteam]

Just now, TRon said:

Not sure what we paid for him, but at the moment, looks to be another depreciating asset.

I think the frustrating thing is he wasn't really needed and the money should have been spent elsewhere.

[Danh1]

Only signed because it was seen as a cheap deal. Not for footballing reasons.

 

Mitchell wrong to make his comments, though. 
 

 

[Aiston]

Thought he missed a sitter today the way the match thread went on

 

Turned out he just tried to find space for a shot and couldn't.

[Sibierski]

Stinky game today. But would still start him and Gordon every game going.

[TRon]

Just now, Aiston said:

Thought he missed a sitter today the way the match thread went on

 

Turned out he just tried to find space for a shot and couldn't.

 

His main issue is his only trick is to cut inside and teams won't give him the space to shoot now they know that.

[Aiston]

Just now, TRon said:

 

His main issue is his only trick is to cut inside and teams won't give him the space to shoot now they know that.

 

They've known it for years and he's still found himself being one of the most productive wingers in the league.

[SiLvOR]

He was really poor today. Got bullied off the ball a lot (ref didn't help here, mind) and then didn't make good decisions when he had the chance. Still think he's class, but he might genuinely be a better option off the bench. 

[LFEE]

Of all our recruitment it’s the the only one i couldn’t see the logic in. All the others i can see the logic being short/medium/long term. Not being critical of the player. You could argue he’s been our most productive player this season but the fee and how we’ve been so restricted it just didn’t make sense unless AG IS our RW for the short to medium term.

[Elliottman]

Clearly one of the best finishers in the squad but seems to offer very little else. I really like him but the alarm bells were ringing from City onwards, overall play has been average at best, seems to be bullied on the ball. Hope it’s just a spell… 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Aiston said:

 

They've known it for years and he's still found himself being one of the most productive wingers in the league.

 

I think if he had a bit more pace then the one trick would be enough. He's not quick enough to go on the outside and keep defenders guessing like Gordon. He can strike a lovely shot if he's allowed though.

[nemtizz]

Good player but one dimensional. He'd be an impact player if PSR didn't exist.

[Newcastle Fan]

Not his best game but he's showed us in the past what he is capable off, unlike the guy on the right who does fuck all game after game.

[James]

Good output masks that he isn’t a good fit for the team.

 

Now there are three players I’d choose to start on the LW ahead of him.

 

I’d still have him first off the bench if we need a goal but either Howe goes or he needs to go.