Manxst Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, BonesJones said: Personally I get more excited when the ball hits the back of the net than when a player does a skill around another. Not to mention potentially getting a win/3 points that puts us further up the table or towards a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I’ve seen the ASM performance v Man City mentioned when he was outstanding but how often have we seen that from him, if Maxi could reach that level in the majority of games he would be one of the best in the league but can any of us hand on heart see him operating at that level consistently. I really hope we keep him and sign Barnes, we need a deeper squad and better options, I think Barnes output over the past few years has been good and certainly adds depth to the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Impressive as fuck those stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 ASM another Sissoko REgardless of a decent goalscoring return (6 in 32 the previous season btw) he's not good enough for a team wanting to consistently finish in the top 4 imo. Neither is Gordon either for what its worth but he might develop more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 If Barnes' strength is the give-and-go then he should score a shitload for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, duo said: Barnes has way more goals He said ASM doesn’t contribute in assists. Think I’ve said all I’ve got on this topic and if there are people who compare watching ASM play to pulling your teeth, I don’t really know what to even say to them. Probably the same people that booed HBA and Robert due to lack of grit. Edited July 8, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 ASM and Sissoko are about as different as you can get. One is all out attacking flair and dribbling. While the other was an appalling dribbler even though he was physically strong on the ball and a great athlete so he could carry well without ever beating someone with skill. Sissoko’s main attribute was linking play, something which ASM struggles with. I’d take ASM every single day over a Sissoko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: ASM another Sissoko REgardless of a decent goalscoring return (6 in 32 the previous season btw) he's not good enough for a team wanting to consistently finish in the top 4 imo. Neither is Gordon either for what its worth but he might develop more. Neither is ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Yorkie said: If Barnes' strength is the give-and-go then he should score a shitload for us. We might be able to to have that triangle of passes and in behind ball on both sides now. Be difficult for the opposition to cheat and overload the right hand side on Trippier/Bruno/Miggy (insert wide man here). When Barnes is miles better at doing it on the opposite side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If Barnes' strength is the give-and-go then he should score a shitload for us. It got Miggy scoring. I expect Barnes to post Haaland-like numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Where we're going we dont need dribbling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I've not seen Barnes have a game like ASM did last year against Man City. I don't think he's a player who can terrorise and unsettle the opposition with the ball. Nor does he have the cuteness to be a low block breaker like Maddison is. That's why I'm slightly concerned at the signing. You've got to look past pure stats output and see what he's going to offer in your team. I'd imagine Howe et al have done that and definitely sees how his game (particularly workrate and off the ball movement) will perhaps compliment our game - he's just not a signing who really excites me. Don’t think I’ve seen ASM have another game like he did against Man City last year. I’d love to believe that a healthy ASM can be that player, but the realist in me says that it’s not at all likely. When posters point out that Barnes had more goals last season than ASM has had in his NUFC career that’s a bit hard to argue with. (If we can afford to keep him with FFP, I’d love to keep ASM. If he has something to prove, he could well be an absolute terror) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 His stats standing up next to the likes of Rashford in a far poorer team is impressive like. I'm still really unsure about this one but that's made me feel quite a bit better about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Give and goes are exactly how we have worked it on the right hand side. Almiron does it consistently and look at the rewards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I know I’ve contributed to it somewhat, but the ASM/Barnes debate is a bit odd. Different in-game circumstances are going to require different abilities. There’s a place for both of them in the squad. Why don’t we all just chill the fuck out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, christ said: I know I’ve contributed to it somewhat, but the ASM/Barnes debate is a bit odd. Different in-game circumstances are going to require different abilities. There’s a place for both of them in the squad. Why don’t we all just chill the fuck out? Really hope that’s the case, think many are concerned we are selling ASM due to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 The problem with ASM is that he really is not a team player. If he would have better decision making, he would cost 100 million and would play in Real. I mean, he wants the ball played in his feet, does not make runs behind, does not play one-twos etc. He is essentially a dribbler. I love the man, but understand completely why he is not in Eddie's plans. Our left side will never work like the right worked last season with ASM there. Of course we can pull the opposition to our right with overload (and most likely will next year also) and then switch play to get ASM 1v1. He just is not a player for passing combinations and pressing game. I mean, does he ever make a run behind the defender? We should upgrade both sides, but RW should be first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pata said: Really hope that’s the case, think many are concerned we are selling ASM due to this. No point getting worked up about something which might happen. Even if we do sell him, you can guarantee we’ll get the best possible deal and it’ll be reinvested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 ASM and Barnes for the LW and Gordon and a new RW on the other side. Murphy as backup and Almiron sold would be my dream scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 yes I’m ready to believe Sean from Enderby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Maxi is brilliant. Ideally we'd get Barnes and another right winger, and Maxi and Gordon would come in depending on fitness/opposition etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If Barnes' strength is the give-and-go then he should score a shitload for us. He's going to cut inside and either shoot or play a give and go with Isak. It's going to be hard to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: yes I’m ready to believe Sean from Enderby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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