Guest Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Alberto2005 said: Good job that isn't the deal then. 4 hours ago, Gawalls said: Good job we’re not doing that then. You’ve literally latched on to the lowest asm quote and the highest barnes quote to prove some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I’m still hopeful of a Chiesa loan to buy or sneak Raphina in at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Reminds me a lot of Marcus Reus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Kanji said: I’m still hopeful of a Chiesa loan to buy or sneak Raphina in at the end I hope so as technically we've not added bodies to the squad with this deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, duo said: I hope so as technically we've not added bodies to the squad with this deal. It's still not August for two weeks. That's when shit starts to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Good player to have in the squad. Just like Almiron and Gordon, but hardly taking us to a new level. The foundation is getting better now, but I miss the x-factor. It's still early in the project, so I think this will be very good in 2-3 years. Stones are piled on stones here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Wasn't there a debate on here last year about whether we should buy Gordon, Barnes, or Harrison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, duo said: I hope so as technically we've not added bodies to the squad with this deal. Technically no but practically yes. Maxi was in a cycle of injury, getting back to match fitness with indifferent performances, and then a period of good/great performances before the inevitable injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Krabbe2 said: Good player to have in the squad. Just like Almiron and Gordon, but hardly taking us to a new level. The foundation is getting better now, but I miss the x-factor. It's still early in the project, so I think this will be very good in 2-3 years. Stones are piled on stones here. Did isaks dribble in from the touch line not give you the X factor, did Murphys goal against spurs or any of miggys goals, the spurs game in general or the Brighton or hammering West Ham? There was a lot of X factor moments last season and I haven’t even mentioned Wilson’s amazing end to the season. 99% of what’s happened since Howe came in has been fantastic but there’s always give and take - this is the first sacrifice we’ve had to make in the transfer market and I suggest we more Positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Totally accept the debates around specifics but got to say I'm loving NUFC deliberately trying to better itself every single transfer window. What a novelty. Couple more and we're in very decent nick. Starting to think LB might not be on the cards, which is a shame but I can live with it. CB essential though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, brummie said: Surprised at the lukewarm-ness of this thread. I really rate Barnes. Decent coaching instead of Rodgers sat with his feet up, coasting and waiting for the pay off will make the difference here. Think it’s just selling Maxi has people a little rattled. If we’d just announced this transfer alone I think people would be 99% stoked about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, brummie said: Surprised at the lukewarm-ness of this thread. I really rate Barnes. Decent coaching instead of Rodgers sat with his feet up, coasting and waiting for the pay off will make the difference here. Agreed - in barnes and miggy we have two wingers that’s scored 24 goals last season. Bearing in mind the chances are from the offset a lot of teams will sit deep then I think this is huge for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Did isaks dribble in from the touch line not give you the X factor, did Murphys goal against spurs or any of miggys goals, the spurs game in general or the Brighton or hammering West Ham? There was a lot of X factor moments last season and I haven’t even mentioned Wilson’s amazing end to the season. 99% of what’s happened since Howe came in has been fantastic but there’s always give and take - this is the first sacrifice we’ve had to make in the transfer market and I suggest we more Positive. Isak's dribbles are a sight to behold. Makes one or two miss then delivers a great ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Totally accept the debates around specifics but got to say I'm loving NUFC deliberately trying to better itself every single transfer window. What a novelty. Couple more and we're in very decent nick. Starting to think LB might not be on the cards, which is a shame but I can live with it. CB essential though. If we add Disasi then this window has been unbelievable IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Couple more and we're in very decent nick. Starting to think LB might not be on the cards, which is a shame but I can live with it. CB essential though. I was thinking a LB would free up Burn to play CB. If either Botman or Schär go down for an extended period, we could have serious trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Based on maths we certainly could I said that the other week - my only gripe about Gordon and Barnes is we could have shelled out their combined fee for 1 truly world class winger imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Gordon, Willock, Isak, Botman, Tonali all under 25. Barnes, Bruno and Longstaff are 25. Joelinton is 26. 9 starting calibre PL players. A front 6 that’s all got the best years in front of them. Barnes - Isak - Gordon Willock/JL - Bruno - Tonali/Longstaff Edited July 19, 2023 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I know we can have pages and pages of discourse on whether this is a good deal or a bright idea, but I'm kind of just basking in the glow of us signing 'good players' (even on paper) in weak positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Thinking about this in a more abstract way he’s basically a far, far better version of Fraser isn’t he? Doesn’t have a trick as such but runs about loads, one touch and pass/cross/hit, wants to get in behind loads. Framing it like that makes more sense as to why Howe wants him. Do think swapping him for Maxi makes us a little bit more one dimensional especially against deep defences but we shall wait and see I guess. And as I’ve said RE: Gordon even if he’s shit you’re still getting most your £ back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 We need another dusting of superstar quality up top a la Chiesa to keep us covered. instead of livramento how about fresneda who we we linked with in January for about 15m. Linked with Bournemouth in bbc gossip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 FWIW in his highlights Barnes beats a man plenty of times. Not in the way that ASM does of course, but he goes past defenders all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tina Tooner said: If we add Disasi then this window has been unbelievable IMO Unbelievable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: £80m on English wingers that don’t make the England squad. Those cost £100 million each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, gdm said: It’s not even that I don’t rate him so u clearly haven’t been paying attention I do rate him he’s decent. Just not as good as people are trying to convince themselves he is. I just don’t think he’s next level. We’ve got a defence that’s getting there, one of the best midfields in the league and we are spending £80m on to wingers that may or may not come good. Well he plays more games and gets more goals and assists in the premier League so it's definitely a step up a level. No need to try and convince oneself of anything really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 The biggest thing that convinced me this transfer will be a success is that I trust the club to get it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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