Tiresias Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Honestly I just trust Howe's judgement at this point, if Howe thinks he's worth £30m i am sure he will do, he seems rated enough for that to be a bargain. He's done ok when i've seen him but not entirely sure he's a full back, he is technically great but hadn't yet got the defensive side figured out fully imo which I'm sure will come with time, but he looks a bit like a Zinchenko to me, i.e. a midfielder who can play there rather than a great left back. All this is very early to say, even if he wasn't young and still learning haven't seen enough to commit to a full opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Chelsea fans were gutted to see him go, and looking at the state of them now, I think we took advantage of them being a mess in the recruitment dept. Pretty sure Howe absolutely rates Hall and won't be letting him go back to Chelsea if he can help it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiresias said: Honestly I just trust Howe's judgement at this point, if Howe thinks he's worth £30m i am sure he will do, he seems rated enough for that to be a bargain. He's done ok when i've seen him but not entirely sure he's a full back, he is technically great but hadn't yet got the defensive side figured out fully imo which I'm sure will come with time, but he looks a bit like a Zinchenko to me, i.e. a midfielder who can play there rather than a great left back. All this is very early to say, even if he wasn't young and still learning haven't seen enough to commit to a full opinion I'm sure I read somewhere that he'd spent most of his Chelsea youth career in midfield so you're bang on with the Zinchenko likeness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Minhosa said: I'm sure I read somewhere that he'd spent most of his Chelsea youth career in midfield so you're bang on with the Zinchenko likeness. Yeah I had read he thought of himself more as a midfielder was more coached into full back so can't take credit of picking that up purely from his playing. It may also be my bias to full backs that look to enjoy defending and bias against the blessed trent alexander arnold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I'd keep him on. Was actually discussing this with a mate after Tino's latest stormer of a game and whether they may try to wriggle out of the deal if they decide other positions become more of a priority. But that just doesn't feel very 'us' these days. When we lock in on a target we take him, no matter the public consensus on whether that position/player is needed or not (e.g. the obvious of people questioning more full back purchases and that's not a dig). If they saw something in Hall like they have all our other signings, I trust that implicitly and want to see how it plays out. Only way I see them looking for an out is if he's not showing the will to improve and break in to the team, as he's clearly got ability. Doesn't seem that sort of character though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike said: I might be crazy but I feel like he came into the squad with more anticipation than Tino, so I'd 1000 percent trigger it. You’re crazy. Livramento was the one. (There were some doubts about whether he would fully recover from the injury.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Having some doubts about Hall. I realize that he couldn’t play against Chelsea, but he’s remained on the bench in two games where he was the only reasonable midfield sub. Howe trusts Miley enough to start those three games. But Hall doesn’t make an appearance ? Not even to kill the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, gazza ladra said: Having some doubts about Hall. I realize that he couldn’t play against Chelsea, but he’s remained on the bench in two games where he was the only reasonable midfield sub. Howe trusts Miley enough to start those three games. But Hall doesn’t make an appearance ? Not even to kill the game? Doubt away but I'm giving Eddie the biggest rope in existence with his development of Hall after what he's done for Gordon and other players in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Would be crazy not to buy this lad. Although he'll be good for another couple of seasons, Trippier is playing at this current level at most one more season, probably not even that. Livramento is a close to ready made replacement to phase him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike said: I might be crazy but I feel like he came into the squad with more anticipation than Tino, so I'd 1000 percent trigger it. He didn't like. Tino had a proper breakout season at Soton. Started pretty much every game before injury and was a standout player. Lewis Hall had a few games in a substandard Chelsea team. Not a knock on Lewis. But Tino was well on his way to becoming an established PL player, while Hall was just coming through. He's a couple of years younger and a couple of years behind in development. As others have said. He's also primarily played at LCM. When you look at his YouTube compilations, most of them he's playing youth football in midfield. Bit of a shame for him that he couldn't get into the team in midfield with all the injuries and he's not really trusted to come off the bench when it matters. I had hoped he might come on in Paris for Isak but I wasn't confident he would track back diligently at LM like Gordon was doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Any chance of giving him a few minutes while the whole team is knackered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronson333 said: Any chance of giving him a few minutes while the whole team is knackered? One of the small things I'd question Eddie on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 No idea why Ritchie is getting on instead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah bit miffed why he hasn't been given a run out here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Probably don't want to trigger something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Absolutely baffling he's not got on here and given someone a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Eddie gave him his chance when he had those 2 starts and was hauled off quickly. He’s not in the trusted circle. Eddie’s not one to play someone just because he’s there and fit. If he’s not trusted he’s not trusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 There’s nothing to trigger. There’s an obligation to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 He's been crap when he has started in my opinion, looks raw and dosn't really do the right things, that being said i would start him on sunday and give someone else a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Eddie gave him his chance when he had those 2 starts and was hauled off quickly. He’s not in the trusted circle. Eddie’s not one to play someone just because he’s there and fit. If he’s not trusted he’s not trusted. Therefore have wasted a lot of money for a player who isn't trusted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, wyn davies said: Therefore have wasted a lot of money for a player who isn't trusted Took Gordon 6 months + u21 euros + hot pre season to be trusted. Hall will get there in time. I hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Insane he doesn't get on today, 10-15 minutes left in a game we've lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Might be a possibility that Howe hasn't been impressed with performances and training etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 He was playing games in the Prem last season for Chelsea. We need to be resting some of these players to have any chance in the next games. He can’t prove himself if players who offer nothing like Ritchie are coming on ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Agree it is a bit concerning he didn’t come on. Trippier needs a rest and the obvious option would be Tino right back and Hall left back but can’t see that happening if Ritchie is coming on over him. Burn and Targett aren’t back for a long time so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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